Comcast advertising “10G” in hopes to confuse consumers to accept slower speeds::Comcast says Xfinity offers 10G home internet, but the term “10G” is hazy and potentially misleading—especially because it has no relation to 5G for cell phones.

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    1 year ago

    Xfinity’s 10G network is technically slower than 5G. Peak theoretical throughput on an uncongested 5G network offers up to 20Gbps download and 10Gbps upload. Xfinity caps out at 10Gbps down and up.

    In what world are people getting that kind of speed on 5G? In like a lab with perfect conditions and non-consumer equipment? Is this article written by T-Mobile home internet or something? I’ll take Comcast 10G over 5G wireless any day and I hate Comcast.

    I automatically assumed 10G was short for 10Gb/s, so I guess I found nothing confusing about the name? They literally are advertising the speed in the name, I think that’s great compared to when they called shit “Blast” and other weird names.

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      The author of this article is a grade A dumbass, or it’s a paid smear piece. Honestly I can’t tell.

      If he’s comparing theoreticals, why not include the theoretical 44000Gbps of a fiber optic connection? If the author is somehow reading this: 44000 is more than 20!

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      In what world are people getting that kind of speed on 5G? In like a lab with perfect conditions and non-consumer equipment?

      It’s right in your quote: “Peak theoretical throughput on an uncongested 5G network”

      It’s the theoretical limit of the technology, not real-world numbers.

      • Bobert@sh.itjust.works
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        Theoretical limit is actually 70 Gbps which is even more laughable.

        Honestly this article is for the less tech savvy, which I doubt much, if any, of the current Lemmy user base qualify as. It’s not a horrible one as far as that goes.

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    This is the new DOCSIS4.0 network. I really don’t understand how it is as contentious as everyone makes it out to be. It’s a new standard allowing for faster speeds.

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      It’s contentious because it is intentionally confusing and doesn’t need to be.

      They can just call it DOCSIS 4.0 and tell their actual speeds. It’s not like they need to hide it. Comcast and other cable providers are finally getting multi gig speeds and their piss poor upload speeds are being raised. Meanwhile fiber providers like Verizon FIOS have yet to roll out consumer multgig outside of NYC and still don’t have IPV6 available everywhere.

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        How is it intentionally confusing?

        Providers have been using G for speeds for a long time. Just because the media became obsessed with 5G for some reason, which uses G for Gen, doesn’t mean the other use of G became intentionally confusing.

        They can just call it DOCSIS 4.0

        And nobody, including myself will know what it means without searching. The actual speed is 10G. As in 10gbps.

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    Oh man, this sounds like a repeat of the whole debacle with AT&T and their “5Ge” bullshit. As soon as the whole 5G hype started, AT&T decided to claim that their entire network was now “5Ge” and capable of faster speeds. When in reality the “5Ge” label simply meant that the network in that area was flagged to be upgraded to 5G sometime in the near future, there was zero increase in network bandwidth or performance, just a little “5GE” symbol on your phone. IIRC they were taken to court over it and ordered to stop using the “5Ge” label, but they figured out a way to weasel out of it and never followed thru.

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      Many years ago, when even smartphones were relatively rare, I learned that AT&T was offering a little USB dongle that would give your computer internet access via their cell phone network for a monthly fee. I thought it was a fantastic idea and I wanted exactly that, so I went in to buy one.

      I asked the lady how much data per month was included. She said it was unlimited. I said that it’s definitely not. I just want to know what the limit is. We want back and forth a little bit, and after a while I just asked to see the written agreement, dug through it a little bit, and found the part where it said that I was limited to 5 gigabytes of internet per month. I pointed it out to her, reiterating that 5 gigs is fine, I just had wanted to know what the limit was.

      She said, “Oh that’s what comes with the unlimited plan.” She argued that no human being would realistically use 5 gigabytes in a single month, so the plan was unlimited.

      I gave up and just bought the thing and left, but it was such a frustrating interaction that it still comes to mind almost 20 years later when someone says “AT&T” and “bullshit” in the same sentence.

      • giacomo@lemmy.world
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        You have an unlimited amount of water in that glass, assuming you don’t drink it all.

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          I really wish the government would crack down on this “unlimited” bullshit. How can companies like Verizon have three separate tiers of “Unlimited data?” It’s fucking impossible to have three separate limits on a thing that is advertised as ‘no limits’

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    Even when they use industry-standard terms, like Mbps, they don’t even advertise their upload speed (because it is piss-poor).

    • Xylight (Photon dev)@lemmy.xylight.dev
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      Can confirm.

      I use Xfinity since they have a monopoly on our area and we don’t really have any other choice. It costs $70/month for 100mbps DOWNLOAD. and it’s about 8mbps upload.

      American ISPs are literally the devil

      • littlecolt@lemm.ee
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        I don’t know how it is for Xfinity, but I work for Spectrum and the low upload is because there is not enough room for it on coaxial cable running at 750MHz or whatever it actually is. A big majority of the bandwidth of the cable, for my company at least, is taken by television and download, which we currently run a docsis 3.0 and a docsis 3.1 segment for download. The upload is a shrimpy part of the band. I know in some areas we are upgrading to support 1.2 or 1.4 GHz, lots more room, so we’re able to increase upload in those areas. This is all rolling out now, I imagine other providers using copper will be doing similar eventually to compete with each other. Lets us run more upload plus double the docsis 3.1 segment so we can go into higher speeds for download (like 2Gbps). One consequence of this is we’re screwing older TV customers, old cable boxes and also TiVo/cable card shit are gonna stop working.

        Not trying to astroturf it advertise it whatever, just sharing what they have been telling us. Upload has always been dogshit because they wanted big download numbers to advertise. I literally get free cable from work but have AT&T fiber installed at my house because I can’t handle the instability of the up pipe on coax for some of the shit I do. (Stream to twitch, run a Plex server, etc) it also makes you lag worse in games. Not the overall low speed, just the instability.