Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said his country won’t accept peacekeeping forces from Nato countries in Ukraine under any peace deal, following high-level talks with the US in Saudi Arabia.

“Any appearance by armed forces under some other flag does not change anything. It is of course completely unacceptable,” he said. Russia and the US said they had agreed to appoint teams to start negotiating the end of the war.

“Today is the first step of a long and difficult journey, but an important one”, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said following the meeting.

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    This is like sovereign citizens saying they don’t consent to being arrested. Did anybody hear us asking for permission?

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        if they were to use those for any reason, it would be horrible suicide for them. They could destroy the society as we know it with them but they couldnt stop the retaliation which would be so vengeance fueled I dont want to even think about it.

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          There was a “nato honest reaction” meme that showed nuclear strikes on every city in Russia with some heavy house music over it.

          I’ll see if I can dig it up.

          Found the animation the meme used but not the meme itself. Ah well.

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    Ukraine isn’t their fucking country so go get fucked, if they wanna have friends over to help scare the goons away of course they can it’s their fucking country.

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    What… Uhhh… What are they going to do about it? Bomb London and eat nukes?

    I know it’s escalatory but sometimes you have to accept a little escalation to show you’re willing. Just like a certain “Axis” in history they’re pushing because they think everyone is too afraid of an actual war. And appeasement directly led to their war because the other powers waited until it was so far gone it could only be war.

    But escalating a little to egg their face now, (not bloody it), it punctures that belief.

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      They gonna order his bitch Trump, the wannabe emperor of the US, to pressure NATO. And the bitch will oblige.

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          US is still unbelievably rich and has an enormous army that they love to use. Europe will not bend the knee, but the shit will be very unpleasant after that.

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            Oh there’s no danger of the US trying to fight Europe militarily. Just the US going isolationist again.

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              I don’t know anymore. Maybe not outright fight with the EU at first, but I completely envision US army invading something on the European continent to help their best friend Putin. With Musk in charge and Trump also running around like a headless chichen, I don’t think I can be sure about anything anymore.

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                I’m pretty sure the American people would shut down D.C. To be honest any military adventurism is going to be hard for them to pull off after 20 years of fighting. But especially against our oldest allies.

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    It’s sad how these mental infants think they can negotiate anything about Ukraine, when there is nobody present with a mandate to do so.
    Lavrov is as bad as they come, and he can go fuck himself. Nothing he says has any value.
    It’s not even interesting what they agree on, because it’s completely irrelevant. The only thing interesting is how Trump reacts when he realizes the free world combined will absolutely distance themselves from it.
    Russia is of course playing along, because they can create discord that way. USA has a fascist leader, that prefer to talk to other fascist leaders, and not the traditional democratic allies of USA.

    Trump is crashing USA as world leader for the 2nd time. But this time is worse, and he has done it right from the start of his presidency. Paving the way for a much quicker new world order where China dominates.

    Without the support of all the allies, USA is not nearly as powerful as Trump may think they are.

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      Its not funny and theyre not mental infants, its calculated, sociopathic geopolitical maneuvering by very capable, ruthless people

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    Lavrov was the first foreign emissary to visit Trump in the Oval Office the first time they stole the election. At that time, our demented rapist revealed classified intelligence that burned some Israeli spies and everyone learned very quickly not to tell the gibbering fuckface anything if you wanted it to stay secret.

    Since they sent Little Marco, I didn’t think they were serious anyway but now it seems ridiculously obvious.