• OKRainbowKid@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    Yogthos, I hope you are getting paid for this. Posting propaganda all day, everyday must be tiring.

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      1 year ago

      Maybe the postings are a distress signal? Workers of the world should be set free.

      • OKRainbowKid@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1 year ago

        I’m not disagreeing with you, but I don’t think pro-chinese, pro-russian or anti-western propaganda is helping.

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          1 year ago

          Me neither, hence the joke

          (Maybe each first letter reads “held gunpoint at propaganda factory, send help”)

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          1 year ago

          Its not anti-Western its anti- extreme capitalism. Why cant we even discuss it? Is there a spectre over the shoulder of capitalism? Something to hide?

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          How is anti Western something bad? They are the ones who have been bullying the rest of the world for the past 200 years and continue to want to do so, not to take it to xenophobic levels but anti ststus quo is necessary if you want a multi polar world.

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            It’s always the dream of the petty bourgeoisie to live in a world where they don’t have to fear being ousted and expropriated by the big bourgeoisie. That’s what the dream of the “multi polar world” is. This is a sham though as capital naturally concentrates- even if the current winner fell, there would be a winner taking its place anew. Even if “the West” fell the problems for the working class would not be over as there would be new powers rising to exploit them in largely the same way.

            The real solution is an international one, against all capital big and small, against war, and the linking of labor movements across borders.

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              I think this could fall into what Mao called “leftist” adventurism, and I do believe that in the context of international and national levels there are situations where the national bourgeoisie takes a revolutionary role, such as it is the case of, for example, Bolivia or Venezuela, where the lack of a scientific Marxist socialism leads to, in some form or another, the national bourgeoisie to be in the power. Still, in the geopolitical game, they play a revolutionary role as the material conditions are not set for a true people’s movement due to the West interventionist policies (coups and installments of fascists regimes in Latin America, and so on). I am not saying that in this way they would be liberated from the exploitation, but it would be one dialectical step further into true emancipation from the ruling classes.

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                Regardless of what “Mao said”, The material conditions for revolution are always present wherever there is class struggle, irrespective of incidental things like the geopolitical situation or what functionary was elected. There is no revolutionary class but the proletariat in 2023. Fascism does present obstacles, but dealing with that is a question of tactics - it does not change the underlying material conditions of society.

                Regardless of the specific form that a capitalist state takes - whether it’s a liberal democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or state-capitalism such as China - the fundamental material contradictions of capitalism remain. That is, there’s still a capitalist class, or an entity that acts as an abstract capitalist, that owns the means of production and a working class that sells their labor power in exchange for wages. That’s going to be overcome by an international revolution, not a series of isolated national “revolutions” where we rely on some supposed revolutionary state-capitalist regime.

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      1 year ago

      I mean, it’s an article from a Japanese source, but yeah sure the OP is biased or whatever, but so is everyone else who regurgitates the top headline from the NYT or BBC. Since the others are part of the dominant ideology, it appears to be more transparent.

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    1 year ago

    oh hilarious. much of this was with russia. they can’t even get the chinese to pay in rubles.