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schizoidman@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

First sodium-ion battery storage station at grid level opens with cells that can be charged in 12 minutes

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First sodium-ion battery storage station at grid level opens with cells that can be charged in 12 minutes

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schizoidman@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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Clean electricity generation paired with the first grid-level sodium battery energy storage system can bring costs down to just $0.028 per kWh. The 10 MWh storage capacity is executed with sodium-ion cells that can be charged in just 12 minutes.
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    How many decades do they last before needing replacement?

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      They’re meant to survive an order of magnitude more cycles than Li-ion. But I’m containing my enthusiasm until we see them lasting a long time in real life use.

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        Lithium isn’t used for grid batteries because weight doesn’t matter. Grid batteries with lead acid last 3 decades. Does this one last longer?

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          Lithium is used in grid storage:

          • Hawaii
          • Ventura County
          • Collie
          • Hornsdale
          • Bouldercombe
          • Geelong

          And that’s just what I could find in a couple of minutes.

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          Lead acid is pretty inefficient though, something like 80% iirc.

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            Again, that doesn’t matter since the battery doesn’t move. This is a grid battery

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              Of course it’s relevant. My LiFePos reach about 92% efficiency. Losing 12% of energy in the storage process or not losing them is a big difference.

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                The question is then whether it’s cheaper to buy LiFePos instead of lead acid or to install more solar panels.

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                  Yep. But also you need to run lead acid in a smaller charge window so you need more of them and when running out of space more panels might not be feasible - many variables in the whole thing, I don’t think there’s a universal answer, one can’t really get around setting up a small spreadsheet.

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                    Agreed - it’s not that there are no space constraints at all.

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              You’re thinking of density. Efficiency certainly matters.

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      I have read encouraging numbers about charge cycles for sodium batteries, I’m quite curious too about real values.

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