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This war really has no winners.
Western weapons manufacturers and their shareholders are winning pretty big right now.
So would Eastern manufacturers if they had bet on a better horse.
Yeah. I can’t really blame people for not wanting to go to war. Still either a lead role in a cage or a walk on part in the war.
Pink Floyd never gets old
America.
In principle, it’s hard to argue against the fact that weapons manufactorers producing arms for any side, also Russia are profiting from armed conflicts. My comment was more regarding actual people, amd ideologically I believe even the people who own weapons producer stocks aren’t getting happier from living in a world of conflict, even if they get a tiny bit richer from it.
That being said, your implication is that America is the big winner. It was my impression that this whole operation was Russia’s idea. Are you suggesting the Russian government are actually puppets for America of their arms manufactorers?
Of course, this operation was Russia’s idea, but it blew up in their face. So America wins big by grinding through Russian equipment and army by just handing over their outdated equipment to Ukraine. Where does Russia puppeting America come into the equation? You seem very conspiracy minded.
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It’s really sad. And a difficult situation.
With one hand Ukraine is absolutely fighting for it’s very survival and needs the population available as required to call up for manpower. This is a very attrition heavy conflict.
But also, I appreciate that there are many that just don’t want to go to war. Even if they’re patriotic or anti Russian, they may certainly have their complety justifiable reasons.
Fuck Putin and his supporters. Fuck them all.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The man, who asked for anonymity to discuss the matter, admitted that he had paid a $5,000 bribe to escape a potential draft into the Ukrainian army and service on the front lines in the war with Russia.
In the first weeks after the invasion, hundreds of thousands of ordinary Ukrainians volunteered to serve at the front in an explosion of patriotism that helped keep the country independent and fight off the initial attack.
In Odesa, like in most Ukrainian cities, a Telegram chat group serves as a forum for people to share anonymised data about where recruitment officers, known informally as “olives” due to the colour of their uniforms, can be found on any given day.
In Lviv, one man who was served with mobilisation papers outside a supermarket in the city said he was conscripted, sent to Britain for training, dispatched to the frontline and then wounded all within a two-month time span.
The stakes have left many people reluctant to comply with mobilisation calls, and those who receive the initial set of papers often lock themselves away to avoid being dragged to the recruitment office.
One young woman, who like most people when speaking about mobilisation requested to remain anonymous, recalled a scene in Kyiv earlier in the summer at a nightclub in the capital.
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