• AnonTwo@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I feel very skeptical of this article coming completely out of left field compared to…literally everything else.

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      1 year ago

      If you have been paying attention to the fronts. There’s maps that if accurate paint a not great picture for Ukraine. Every spot where they gain ground is matched with another spot where they lose.

      The first casualty of war is the truth, and I know I’ve had a very hard time trying to see through the B.S.

      The biggest indicator I’ve read is that US generals have been upset with the speed of the Ukrainian forces. Meaning they’re taking too long to take territory back. Just one example though.

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        1 year ago

        That’s…a whole lotta nothing that someone could argue from either side of the argument.

        You really just sound like a propaganda worker than an actual person.

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          Now you’re being paranoid and rude. They said they have a hard time seeing thru fog of war.

          They’re describing statements from the pentagon & maps from ISW. Quite well. So they clearly are just assuming the negatives both sides admit for themselves are true. That’s a good rational process for a casual observer, no?

          The US top brass is not as rosy on this as Reddit & the Ukrainian MOD &; their twitter OSINTers

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            They didn’t describe anything what are you talking about?

            Some general they don’t know said they were upset with the speed of taking territory back, territory they don’t know. It’s the most vague example possible.

            Also you shifted in 2 minutes from “better butter yourself up” to “you’re being rude”. Sorry I’m going to need a second source.

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              I mean obviously you don’t know what they were alluding to because you don’t check any source that would even repeat negative stuff Milley says

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      This is a hardcore imperialist pro-US source dude you’d better butter yourself up

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        He is a war hawk working for the think tank owned and operated by Rand Paul and the Koch brothers.

        This just isn’t their preferred war, that’s it. They apparently prefer US servicemen and women dying over some oil or other natural resource they can exploit.

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          Lol you’re almost starting to try to get it, huh. You’re so fucked I’m ahead by two years. Two years you drank the koolaid.

          No shit they would rather be fighting a war they’re not actively losing. Go look at the House Select Committee on China Chairman Gallagher’s beliefs.

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            “They” are not fighting any war, the US et al. are financing one. The US&co are writing off military assets and listing that as aid, while spending money on industrial capacity they now know they will need in the future. While at the same time crippling a geopolitical rival for cents on the dollar. From a US military and political point of view this is money well spent. And as long as these goals align with the needs of the Ukrainians the weapons will keep on coming.

            If anything the war hawks are pointing at this conflict and saying “spend more on weapons of deterrence” as if that will magically solve the issues.

            I personally hope the Ukrainians have been able to make the lines brittle enough to break out somewhere and reach the sea of asov before winter. But that this war will not be over this year is probably true.

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              Exactly.
              For Russia to win, they have to annex a large portion of Ukraine.
              For Ukraine to win, they have to gain lost territory back.
              For the US to win, the war has to go on as long as possible.

              It’s also important to remember that US aid is often a loan.