Character.ai being mentioned in the same line is a sign of the times.
The people yearn for the digital anime waifus
When you stop using a search engine and use AI-generated responses for everything, I guess having your LLM backends go down could qualify as having a disruptive functional impact.
A disruption to disfunctional search engines does not sound bad.
If you’re not running your waifu on a local machine she’s just a digital prostitute.
The one downvote on this comment makes it like 20x funnier
Well, the actual headline is:
Massive internet outage: Google services, Cloudflare, Spotify all down, users report
Character.ai is only mentioned in the lengthy list of services that are down.
Massive internet outage reported: Google, Cloudflare, Twitch all down
It even swapped in Twitch when I read it at the time. Headlines be changing.
And when I went there, it said Google, Cloudflare, and Frank’s Dildo Emporium all down, like of all the random sites, why pick FDE?
Ai? Or a catch headline
It’s a joke. I don’t think there’s really a website called Frank’s Dildo Emporium. But if there is, lmk.
Still a very important service for many people who are alone.😢
What is character.ai? Have I been living under a stone? When I visit the page I have to log in just to learn what it is?
It’s LLMs for ERP
… What’s ERP? Or don’t I want to know?
I put on my robe and wizard hat
My front-line guess is “Erotic Role Play” but I am not familiar with character.ai
Enterprise resource planning
Erotic resource planning
That’s how I read it too at first- and as bad as ‘erotic role play’ with a LLM chatbot sounds, the other one is so much horribly worse.
Ohh that’s why everything is slow and this is my sanity check.
But its scary how if Cloudflare went down most popular websites will go down with it
Cloudflare is a cancer
tell me more
It blocks anyone not using one of its preferred browsers, among other things. It’s become the gatekeeper for a large fraction of the Internet.
He is not wrong. Look the whole internet is basically one centralized cloudflare if we continue this path.
great article, and I had no idea that happened to Brian Krebs, of all people! o.O
I do think the EFF makes a good point though, and I think personally I tend to be biased towards content neutrality over moderation (at least, more strongly the larger the platform is, and Cloudflare is very large). Not to the point of Xitter, obviously, but I think there’s at least a reasonable argument for Cloudflare in this case.
that said, after some searching, I did find the following two articles, and I find their arguments against Cloudflare very compelling:
- https://www.devever.net/~hl/cloudflare
- http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2016/07/14/cloudflare-we-have-a-problem/
Fortunately I’m already using end-to-end SSL certs via Caddy, but now I’m considering just moving off Cloudflare entirely and instead providing regular backups to Internet Archive–most of the stuff I host is entirely static and very lightweight.
Like the bad kind
Lemmy is working though. What else do we need?
I think that at least some instances use Cloudflare for various things, so depending upon what and how much stuff at Cloudflare is broken, some lemmy instances may be impacted.
This is my workday now
Nowadays they will tell you to work on something else in the meantime.
Your code can compile while you’re in a retro, retrospectively looking back at the action items raised in a previous retro but not assigned any sprint time in the current sprint so you just raised a “what went wrong” about it not being planned and now you have more non-sprint work to do because every problem should be presented with a solution and if you could have that for the next retro they’ll review this retro’s action items and see if you have a proposal for fixing retro action items
This is why I call scrum masters scrumlords.
Thankfully my boss is hands off so I took a walk and then worked on an internal tooling side project that really only I will appreciate.
Scrumlords I love it
You have a good boss!
Quitting my last job for this one might be the best thing I’ve done since I tricked my wife into marrying down.
My mental and physical health has improved a ton.
Yep
*Laughs in self-hosting services.
I wish I had that luxury with work.
All my personal stuff is 100% unaffected though!
You’re not wrong. The gangly stacks of orchestrated black-box containers at a pubcloud beholden to shareholder whim is going to be a huge factor. Sorry grandma can’t get her pills, but - phew - the number will still go up.
Same. Feeling pretty good about using Anubis instead of Cloudflare for our dinky systems.
I actually enjoy when this happens. All this centralized shit will not end well.
At work just about all major services are super slow or down. It’s like cloud strike again.
Oh well I still get paid. But it’s crazy how much centralization affects the world wide web.
It’s like cloud strike again
When The Cloud goes on Strike. Damn it they’re just asking for more power, Scotty! Don’t let those scabs cross the picket line!
The problem was actually caused by Google Google Cloud went down hard on Thursday, and took Cloudflare and some of its customers with it.
I remember the day I went why are we all selfhosting and still relying on a site like Cloudflare?.
I’m glad I agreed with me on it.
I’ve migrated about half of my services off of cloudflare DNS proxy. Guess which half still worked this afternoon. (Self hosting pangolin with CrowdSec as replacement). I wasn’t even using the cloudflare tunnel. Just their proxy for some bot mitigation.
still hard. most projects still CDN online instead of packaging into a single application.
it’s one of the most infuriating things about self-hosting. so I made my own self-hosted CDN and have rewrite rules that replace most public cdb domains and reroute them to my own local.
it would be great if I could just have something in the middle that would download once and cache locally on request, but it’s effort that would be taken from my time afk.
I use it for DNS and domain hosting, but that’s it, none of their proxying stuff.
We need to break up Cloudflare.
It sucks because up until the “sales team” rugpull, they’re the cheapest (and closest to reality) for bandwidth cost, virtually all the other CDN providers charge astronomical prices and their margins are hundreds to thousands of percentage.
If the costs are mostly variable in how much they serve up, and uptime is sufficiently important, maybe have two CDNs and use the other one as a fallback when things start going tits-up?
Cloudflare tries to enforce pretty strong vendor lock in by requiring you use their nameservers.
Also subdelegate domains are an “enterprise” feature, so no luck there.
Basically the CDN market sucks, not a shocker Netflix, Google, Valve, and many others operate their own.
Hmm.
I’m not familiar with the constraint.
I assume that the way that this works is that I host content at www.foo.com and they have their nameserver resolve www.foo.com to different IPs based on the geolocation of the browsing user’s IP.
Is it possible to convert www.foo.com to a CNAME that can be redirected away from their nameservers? Like, I make www.foo.com be a CNAME directed at www.foo-cloudflare-cdn.com. They own www.foo-cloudflare-cdn.com, they serve A or AAA queries there on their nameservers. But if I want fallback, I update the CNAME to point at www.foo-backup-cdn.com, which is served by a different CDN.
Are there technical barriers to that, do you know?
We just should not use cloudflare. Why is everybody still trying to use cloudflare.
It drives me nuts. The default answer on all network problems: why don’t you just use cloudflare? No! No no.
We just should not use cloudflare. Why is everybody still trying to use cloudflare.
Counterpoint: I find networking challenging, and I’m not particularly accountable for the natural consequences of not knowing how stuff works.
This could end fine for everyone? Maybe an AI will understand it for me. (This is sarcasm. I agree with you.)
The answer always seems to be: Cloudflare is fucking up again. This isn’t the first time.
Google Cloud status page:
Thanks I have updated the Google link to this instead of downdector.
Holy shit, goddamn near everything is down, nearly everywhere.
Fucking Tracer Tong ending from Deus Ex, hope somebody has a save file they can reload from soon, otherwise… yeah…
Another reason to self host 😊
Was trying to order food online and that was apparently affected.
Gotta love having all our eggs in one basket, eh? We learned something from the big ass east coast AWS outage!
I think https://pkg.go.dev/ is down too
npm is having issues as well with publish and installs. Fun fun day.
Time to relax
The whole internet is down. Unless you self host
