• Sendbeer@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Covered in the article. In Norway you are required to signal when exiting a roundabout. It’s a fair concern.

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      11 months ago

      If you are going hand-over-hand in a roundabout, you’re doing something very wrong…

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        11 months ago

        That’s not the issue, imagining driving through a roundabout that curves left and having to find a button somewhere on the steering wheel, which is at an angle, in order to indicate right before turning tight in order to exit the roundabout.

        A stalk will always be in the same position. The same cannot be said for buttons.

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          11 months ago

          imagining driving through a roundabout that curves left and having to find a button somewhere on the steering wheel

          Your don’t have to “find” anything, it’s right next to your thumb

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            11 months ago

            Again, it depends on the angle of the steering wheel. The buttons may be upside down if the car is turning sharply enough.

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              11 months ago

              Again, it depends on the angle of the steering wheel.

              Again, no it doesn’t. The button should always be in the exact same position, relative to your thumb.

              The buttons may be upside down if the car is turning sharply enough.

              If you’re turning that sharply, you’re not going to need turn signals.

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                11 months ago

                Do you stick your hands to the steering wheel with Krazy glue?

                You can’t be serious if you think people don’t take sharp turns from time to time and have to indicate.

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                  Do you stick your hands to the steering wheel with Krazy glue?

                  …huh?

                  You can’t be serious if you think people don’t take sharp turns from time to time and have to indicate.

                  You are bad at reading. Try again.

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                    11 months ago

                    I’ll do it your way…

                    …huh?

                    I was replying to this comment:

                    Again, no it doesn’t. The button should always be in the exact same position, relative to your thumb.

                    Are you seriously telling me you never reposition your hands on the steering wheel?

                    You are bad at reading. Try again.

                    This is total nonsense:

                    If you’re turning that sharply, you’re not going to need turn signals.

                    Ever heard about U-turns? You need to signal while doing those too. That’s just one example that disputes your position.

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            11 months ago

            Drivers frequently change their hand placement as they turn the wheel. You lose precision and basic ability to manipulate the wheel if you don’t.

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        11 months ago

        The point is that there will be no way to handle the turn signal through muscle memory. With a traditional control, it is always in the same place in relation to your body. It doesn’t move. When it’s in the steering wheel, it can be in many, many different places. If you have media controls on your steering wheel, try using them during a turn without taking your eyes off the road. Now pretend they are smooth and act like a touch input on a dual shock controller.

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          With a traditional control, it is always in the same place in relation to your body

          As is the one on the wheel. Right next to your thumb.

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              11 months ago

              Unless I’m making a very sharp turn (in which case my turn signal should already be on), yes, of course it does.

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                There are numerous times you would need to put your turn signal on when the steering wheel isn’t perfectly straight. A three point turn for instance. Exiting a roundabout in some places, a curved residential road. Just because you fail to think of scenarios it applies in, doesn’t mean it doesn’t apply.

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                  There are numerous times you would need to put your turn signal on when the steering wheel isn’t perfectly straight

                  No one is talking about “when the steering wheel isn’t perfectly straight”. Come back when you want to have an honest conversation.

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                    Pretty honest conversation here. If you’re doing any of the things I just listed, you’re improperly driving if your thumbs aren’t moving.