Intel accused of inflating CPU benchmark results::SPEC says Intel’s Xeon processors were using a compiler that artificially inflated the results of its industrial benchmark by as much as 9%.

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    6 months ago

    I’m not going to say you’re wrong but I’m surprised. It’s like we lived in alternate universes.

    Not that I think Intel wouldn’t cheat, because they’ve showed what they’re “capable of” time after time, but what I remember about Athlon vs P4 was that there was something about heat and wattage specified by AMD that was criticized heavily. Athlon was also not something you’d choose for overclock because of this.

    I just googled a little and there didn’t seem to be a trace of any controversy around P4 and tailormade compiler.

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      6 months ago

      Oh boy the Tom’s Hardware “scandal”. That story was 100% planted by Intel. I think it was the K6, If the cooler dropped off, entirely the AMD thermal safety didn’t react quickly enough. In my 40 years in IT I have NEVER heard about a cooler falling off the socket even once, except for that paid for cesspool of shit article.
      That story together with the 180° they did on RAMBUS to favor P4 have made me NEVER use TOM’s Hardware since. It was 100% dishonest paid for shilling. Either that or so idiotic it’s not worth reading either way. Even you mentioning that now about 30 years later, it still pisses me off. 🤬 🤬 🤬
      Never heard about heat problems with Athlon, and P3 and P4 weren’t great overclockers either. Celeron was great, because you could up FSB 50%, Which made it actually faster than the top P3.

      EDIT PS:
      No there were no journalists that covered/revealed ANY of Intels shenanigans at the time. The entire industry seemed to be in an Intel Vacuum.
      But entusiasts all knew that Athlon was way better than P4.

      EDIT2:
      There was also the issue that the Intel compiler had zero optimizations for any AMD CPU, but optimized heavily for P4. That was a general thing that Intel didn’t even hide.

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        6 months ago

        So the journalists are still covering for Intel to this day 15 years later, but the enthusiasts know the truth?

        I’m still not saying you’re wrong but you have to admit it’s kinda strange a quick Google doesn’t reveal anything?

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        6 months ago

        So they put out an article claiming that the thermal safety was defective, and the thermal safety was defective, and you see that as some grandiose conspiracy perpetrated by Intel? And you’re still upset about it?

        Even if Intel did discover and publish the defect, what exactly did they do wrong? I would reasonably expect AMD and Intel to be testing each other’s hardware constantly. Would you have preferred that Intel didn’t publish their findings?

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          The thermal safety was not defective, only a few years prior thermal safety wasn’t even available. The article created an artificial situation that never occurs in reality, and claimed the CPU should be able to handle that.

          The CPU handled a fan suddenly cutting off just fine, it handled being turned on without a cooler just fine. Only if the CPU was running full throttle, and the cooling block “fell off” suddenly and completely, the throttle wasn’t fast enough.

          When did you ever hear about that actually happening?

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            6 months ago

            So you’re saying that the CPU burning out when the cooler is removed, is the thermal safety working as intended? Sorry, I am not familiar with the situation, but the way you initially described the issue doesn’t sound like foul play.

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      6 months ago

      There absolutely was. Intel got smacked on the wrist for doing their benchmarks using ICC… you know, the compiler that builds code that detects that it’s not running on an Intel CPU and disables all optimisations and extended instruction sets (like say MMX/SSE).