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And then how long do you get any updates?
I flash custom ROMs, so get updates pretty frequently, but that is beyond most people’s capabilities, for sure. I currently use the OnePlus Nord N200 which i got new for $250 and installed LineageOS 20 (Android 13) on it. You can still tell it’s a $250 phone compared to like $1000 phones but the differences aren’t noticeable enough to cause me issues and make me want to upgrade.
Idk, I bought a used Pixel and use it with GrapheneOS. 150/200€ often, if you repair it yourself its cheaper.
LineageOS is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many components that will likely not get any updates
Graphene does not offer any support at all though once the manufacturer stops releasing new versions. With Lineage I’ve seen two or three more major Android versions ported than the manufacturer released.
No, they get minimal security patches for nearly a year.
Thats not much but its harm reduction as they cannot
DivestOS is recommendes AFTER the device is EOL.
For the uninitiated, what’s Lineage OS? Is that like a FOSS alternative OS?
Yes. Its basically AOSP (android Open Source Project) with just enough stuff to make the device useable and you have to add everything else on top of it. A lot of custom ROMs use LineageOS as their base and build from that point.
Unfortunately IME it’s a no go if you’re using banking or government/authenticator apps. (Your mileage may vary and this may change.)
Not how it should be, but how it is.
I think it depends a lot on the app itself. My banking app works perfectly fine, on it with no Google Play services, but I have seen apps that completely will not open at all, except to give an error message, so I know what you mean. That is not specifically a lineage problem as much as its a google play services problem. Yoi can install gapps and those apps will work, but IMO that defeats the point.
And using a browser will always work.
Do note that although custom ROMs helps provide OS updates, it does not help with any firmware updates to your phone parts as those are vendor released. Once they stop providing those updates, it is no longer secure
I have a OnePlus 3T (2016) that is running Android 11 custom ROM. I use it mainly for some games and browsing. I would never use it as my main phone or use banking apps there though. Don’t want to risk all of my data on there.
That’s why GrapheneOS only supports phones that are still officially updated.
When you say “it’s no longer secure”, can you point to an actual vulnerability on older hardware and what the exploits are?
We keep hearing how unpatched phones are not secure but I’d like to hear more about what the actual risk is.
Millions of people use older phones that haven’t been updated for years, yet it seems to me that scams are more about social engineering than exploiting software vulnerabilities on phones.
Right?
Show me some stats where this is demonstrated to be a problem.
I run OLD versions - current phone is Android 9.
I’ve had 10x more problems caused by system updates than anything else, let alone “being insecure”.