But have you considered that they fly their jets close to our spy planes that are hovering around their airspace? Menacingly?
But have you considered that they fly their jets close to our spy planes that are hovering around their airspace? Menacingly?
It’s great that this will be how he is remembered. He deserves worse but it’s something.
People who don’t want Russia to acquire resources and think they should be stopped from getting them by force are not pro-Russia. Graham ALSO wants them to fight, you are in complete agreement with him. Are you also a Ruzzian stooge?
Maybe they wouldn’t be unprepared if he would pack it in and go back to ruzzia. Just wait for the peace conference to happen, then he’ll really have egg on his face when they all agree that he has lost and has to go back to his part of the map.
/s
Gotta love that rules based international order.
Well I only speak for myself but I don’t care for Putin personally. I think it’s a shame he’s the head of state, I really wish he wasn’t the favored successor of the guy the US helped install at the head of the new state after the USSR started to fold. That entire era was a massive human rights tragedy, I think we agree.
I think what is irritating to a lot of people who aren’t pro-Ukraine is that the entire world knew there was a fascism problem before the war. Now we’re expected to support them like they’re noble underdogs, because the government wants to do things western governments approve of.
I don’t think it’s good to round up young men and force them to die in a war they don’t want to participate in. I have no control over Putin but a bunch of my labor value is being used, against my will, to turn a bunch of people into corpses.
I think one thing that’s getting lost in the discussion here is you keep talking about governments as if they are people. Ostensibly liberal states exist to protect human beings and their rights. At the point where “you” have to let “your” values slide in order to deal with “your” existential crisis we are talking about the governent as if it has feelings and its own aspirations that deserve to be treated with the same seriousness we theoretically want to apply to human welfare.
I feel very bad for Ukrainians, to be clear, I think they’ve been mistreated by the US who used them to try and get one over on an adversary in the knowledge that other people will be the ones dying if it goes poorly. That’s certainly very bad.
However you feel about the justice of the invasion, though, we’ve reached the point where even people who support the war and want Ukraine to win are defining winning as a negotiated settlement where they give up territory. If NATO is not willing to fight Russia directly (clearly they aren’t) and continuing the aid to the conflict is not even providing a reasonable way for Ukraine to retain its territory and even cheerleaders who are on the side of Ukraine’s government believe they will have to negotiate a settlement then WHY ARE WE NOT PUSHING THAT? More Ukrainians are being expected to die, against their will as you freely acknowledge, for no long term strategic purpose.
The death and destruction from this war is a human tragedy. It will be more tragic if it is prolonged for years only to end in the same way it could have within months.
Three years ago they were all also admitting that, we’ve just decided that this particular war fell out of the coconut tree.
Just in time for Blinken to go ask the Chinese to be nice and cooperative with us!
The only leaving he should be doing is LEAVING UKRAINE amirite?
Are you still of the opinion that Russia is slowly losing its position and is incapable of moving forward?
I’m curious, do you still feel this way?
Joe is infuriating with these PR moves, it’s frustrating that they work so well on people who only digest headlines.
“It said an “immediate and sustained ceasefire” was “imperative” adding that “towards that end” unequivocal support should be given to the hostage negotiations.”
Read the danged article folks, it’s just saying “a ceasefire would be good, they need to agree to our hostage deal to do that.” They’re not calling for a ceasefire unequivocally, it’s a continuation of the Biden position from a new venue in the hope that it will, aesthetically, look like they’re doing something.
At least until we see the resolution we should be careful about just granting Joe credit foe this.
Edit: That is the resolution, it’s literally just the Biden-Israel line of “agree to our deal and we’ll stop for 6 weeks” which they are peddling as if that amounts to a durable ceasefire.
Well how about this tankies:
Putin can have a peace deal when his army packs up and returns to ruZZia and lets the adults in Switzerland decide what peace is gonna be without including one of the belligerents in the conflict they’re resolving.
I don’t even understand what the stakes are from his perspective, he’s already banned like a dozen political parties and nobody cares, what do you have to fear holding an election when you’re allowed to ban people who oppose you? It’s a free rubber stamp basically, you get democracy points and to renew your mandate by being the only legal option, it’s a win win.
Yeah, the news I trust is always reliable and is produced for my benefit so I can be reliably informed.