All of this is still irrelevant. If given the same hardware, one OS performs better than another, then one OS is obviously more optimized…
You’re saying a lot of words but it all just boils down to “throw more hardware at the problem”.
How is this relevant? If an OS performs better on old hardware, it’s still an indication that it is more optimized.
If anything, it’s Epic that will succumb to capitalism because they’ve been failing to innovate on their platform since the beginning. EGS is still a glorified game launcher without any platform features. Where’s the equivalent to Steam Input, Remote Play and Remote Play Together, Family Sharing, Chat, Discussion Boards, Proton, Steam Deck, etc.?
Maybe spend some of that Fortnite money on your platform instead of buying up exclusives…
That’s not where Valve makes their money from though. Their money primarily comes from store purchases, so anything to expand Steam’s reach is better for them. Plus, keeping Steam as relevant and ubiquitous as possible will in turn promote sales of the Steam Deck. The Xbox and Steam Deck cater to fundamentally different use cases anyways.
Yeah, they still haven’t fixed the slow ass scrolling performance in the client and have barely introduced any platform features to their store. It’s so bad.
Yeah it’s literally free marketing for them and they’re crushing the community.
Man I feel the same way, the internet can be so negative sometimes. People just need to relax. I’ve been waiting to play ever since it came out on PS5 and I held out for the PC version. Now it’s finally here and I am super excited for it to be honest. It’s a good port by Nixxes and runs like a dream on my PC. The game looks insanely good too, so it’s a technical marvel in my book.
No kidding. This solves a major issue with the Steam Deck as well, because now someone else can be playing on the Deck while you use your main PC for another game.
Not true. Cumulative updates also take a while, so do the .NET runtimes. Maybe you have a system with a super fast NVMe drive and a new CPU so you don’t realize it, but other OSes can do much more with much less powerful hardware.
Settings and internet are fine. I dunno what to tell you. Very frequently Windows update shows its head, like I’ll randomly want to restart my computer because I installed a piece of software that required it, and then it kicks off a long round updates when I just want to use my computer.
I still think having to leave it on and let it run in the background is still just addressing the symptoms. An update process should be way faster than that so that such a thing isn’t needed.
I turn off modern standby. I don’t want my computer turning on when I am not around or when I am asleep. For laptops, modern standby is famous for turning it on while its in your laptop bag, causing overheating and battery drainage.
I think if an update process is annoying enough to require something like Modern Standby in order to be “seamless”, it needs to be improved.
is a YOU problem.
Wtf is this crap? How is it MY problem when other OSes do a much better job with the update process? You talk about 15 minutes or leaving updates running overnight as if that’s decent. I can do a Linux update within 2 minutes and get my system back up by minute 3. That’s the kind of performance I am expecting and I don’t even need a super fast NVMe drive to do it.
The fact that you’re okay with putting up with Window’s comparatively slow update speed and then have to make excuses for it by saying that the USER needs to constantly baby it or waste power by leaving it overnight is honestly hilarious. To be quite frank, you just don’t know how updates could be better because you’re just used to what Windows has always offered you.
Don’t put the blame on users for a problem that Microsoft can definitely solve but never does.
Most updates on my system are handled overnight, outside the active hours I’ve set in the settings.
Not everyone leaves their computer on draining power. I always put it to sleep when I am not using it. If your argument is that, yeah updates aren’t a problem, you just let your computer run and chew on it for a long time, that’s still a problem…
I am guessing you run your computer all the time instead of putting it to sleep, because it’s never a process that completes transparently in the background for me. It will always build up and then I have to go in and manually trigger it. Or I have to restart because I installed a new application that requires it and then it decides to do them all at once and takes forever.
The longest update I’ve had took about 15 minutes.
Asking someone to take 15 minutes out of their work time to do updates is exactly why people DON’T want to update. Even 15 minutes is insane. That’s a whole standup meeting, that’s a whole presentation, that’s work disruption for a bunch of people.
Linux updates in a minute. That’s the kind of performance we SHOULD be expecting in the modern age and that Microsoft refuses to deliver.
Problem with this is that it’s really hard to figure out whether some update to some minor library is going to affect an application. Sometimes you don’t even know which applications are using that library.
I legitimately haven’t had a windows update take more than 5 minutes during the reboot phase for years.
I wasn’t just talking about the reboot phase…
Downloading gigabytes worth of updates, waiting for them to install, rebooting, see more updates, reboot again takes WAY more than 5 minutes.
There is occasional weirdness if you don’t powercycle though. In particular, certain KDE updates will make the desktop misbehave until you reboot. I get where you’re coming from though. Quick updates and the ability to decide when you want to restart means that I have no qualms about updating frequently.
I am on Arch too and pacman -Syu is usually a snack I have with my morning tea.
I mean, I don’t think I would mind forced updates if they didn’t take so damned long and fail half the time. And then, just when you think you’ve finished installing all updates, you reboot and there’s more updates! Why can’t they just install it all at once?
Plus, after each major update, Microsoft wastes your time by advertising to you about Edge, Office 365, and OneDrive before they even let you get back into the desktop.
Forced security updates is addressing a symptom but not addressing the root cause, which is that the Windows update process is just painful for a myriad of reasons. In Linux, I run one command, wait 5 minutes, reboot, and I am back to work.
I think there was some bad vibes when they got bought by a less than reputable company a while back. I know a lot of people, myself included switched to Mullvad. I am on Proton now though for the port forwarding.