Or run the piping in the ceiling?

Not to mention, hot air rises up from the floor. Cold air…doesn’t.

The fact that this is news we have to think about in the year 20-fucking-24 is beyond absurd. Not only is it 40 years since it happened, it’s been a decade since same sex marriage has been legalized. Plus it’s been two decades since they started fucking legalizing it. Perfomative bullshit.

lol the “no u r” defense. A+

NYC did this. I haven’t heard any follow up on housing prices falling though. I’m still hoping it’ll help longer term, but I feel like the market won’t allow for prices to immediately self correct. Who knows though, but it’s been almost a year.

Oh my god the irony of this comment is almost too much.

I started out this entire goddamn odyssey of a conversation doing nothing more than suggesting you change your tact. Telling you i support what you’re doing but think you’re going about it all wrong.

You got snarky—even though you entirely misunderstood what I said. And continued misunderstanding what I was saying. Calling you out on doing your cause no favors and me getting annoyed that I couldn’t get my point across has nothing to do with….anything that you’re now trying to make me think this conversation has ever been about lol

Hm. I had no idea. Interesting. Isn’t lemmy.ml the lemmy grad sister instance? Like, they’re commies?

Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean by that. The person I replied to had “[slur removed]” in their comment, they’re on lemmy.ml

What. When did we start censoring shit on lemmy.

lol. I ended up getting frustrated with you because it took me explaining a really simple thing like five different ways before you understood what I was saying. I feel like that wouldn’t hint at you being a really great judge of much, especially communicating about something you claim to care about with people on the internet. So…

Ironic. “Don’t be a dick” is an unlikeable position.

That makes sense.

No.

No. Like, what is your damage?

For real. How are you not understanding what I’m saying?

I’m saying you’re not doing veganism any favors by being a dick. Holy shit, I literally have run out of ways to put what I’m saying. I’d like to see the idea stop getting shit on by people online. And people like you, being a dick, make that unlikely. Veganism is already facing an uphill battle in the likeability/image department, thanks to organizations like PETA and their annoying, obnoxious antics. You, being a dick about veganism makes that hill even steeper. Are you…grasping this yet?

No. In order to help…yknow…the earth? The animals? Why is this so much about other people for you?

Why are you vegan? For yourself? For clout? As I mentioned…like, three or four times…my whole idea is to help promote the good idea. Not you, not others. And you’re standing in the way of a good thing because you can’t get the fuck over yourself.

That’s…not what I’m saying. At all. Are you…reading what I’m writing? I literally can’t make it any clearer.

You, (as in you, the person I’m talking to) are being a dick (a douchebag, a pissant, an annoying prick). And you being a dick (douchebag, pissant, et. al) makes trying to stop others (other people on the internet; people who are not you; meat eaters) from hating all vegans (other people; not yous who also happen to subscribe to and live the vegan lifestyle).

You being a dick makes vegans look like assholes. And looking like assholes makes people hate vegans even more. Stop it.

Are you-

Um. I don’t know what’s even happening here. How do you not get what I’m saying.

Just fyi, when I’m trying to stem the flow of vegan hate I see online, I find way, way, way more success in not being an obnoxious asshole.

Or put another way: “it’s best when trying to make sure not everyone hates a good cause, to not be a total dick.” (Read: you’re being a total dick and not helping your cause.)

It’s a stupid trend, bashing and shitting all over vegans and vegetarians saying the habit is a good thing.

“I understand it’s a stupid trend that people on the internet hate vegans and anyone speaking positively about veganism/vegetarianism.”

Don’t make it harder for everyone else to get on board with this kind of shit.

“You’re making sticking up for veganism/vegans much harder by, as mentioned before, being a dick.”

Get it now?

…yes. Did you read what I said? Because it should be clear I mean you.

Just fyi, when I’m trying to stem the flow of vegan hate I see online, I find way, way, way more success in not being an obnoxious asshole. It’s a stupid trend, bashing and shitting all over vegans and vegetarians saying the habit is a good thing. Don’t make it harder for everyone else to get on board with this kind of shit.

I’m all for people being vegan and vegetarian. I just wanted to follow up on this with a question: what about genetically engineered fruit/veg? Or greenhouses? Really, what’s the difference between a lab and a greenhouse when it comes to making food? I just don’t see the lab thing making any sense. We eat a ton of stuff grown in what is essentially food labs. Kitchens are food labs, especially the bigger ones. Don’t eat the lab grown meat, all fine with me. I just think the distinction is strange.

You’re somehow still not getting what I’m saying. Are you doing it on purpose? I mean, you have to be.

You’re absolutely missing the point of my question. I know they’re not the same. I never said they were the same. What I said was the same was this tactic being used by the media. Highlight the worst of the bunch to discredit the movement. Because that’s what’s happening here. Did you side with the media then? Or did you decry this tactic then? Because you’re encouraging it now.

And as for your points here, you’re likening two disparate movements. An actual organization dealing with issues at home, and a loose group of different people from all walks of life coming together to say what we all see happening halfway across the world needs to stop. At my local demonstrations, there are always Hasidic Jewish people demonstrating alongside, speaking out against Israel’s actions. But you don’t say shit about that, you just pick out the worst example you can find and write off the entire demonstration. And, also, how do you know no one said ‘get the fuck out of here?’ You said they accomplished nothing because these two people were there. You really did write off the entire thing because of these two flags. Based on nothing but this article.