Probably all eastern block states. I know its true for example for East Germany.

Roundabouts would help for sure, but the area sizes of American cities are just much higher as well and therefore the population density is smaller.

It’s crazy to me that you need 45 minutes for a city of that size. In Germany you probably need 20-30 minutes depending on traffic.

Thanks for explaining your reasoning, I see it different than you.

Especially your comment regarding the LLM is where our beliefs differ: an LLM is the software plus the hardware, so in my opinion for sure if there ever is a “real” conscious AI, we know what it is made out of and that it’s the collection of programs that run on the hardware (we might never understand why that lead to consciousness, but it isn’t more than what was put in). So whatever that AI is, is defined by those two things. Same as we humans are defined by our nerve system and brain. Take parts of it away and it changes the whole (=brain damage, trauma, drugs, etc.).

Especially drugs and their influence on our minds are a big reason why I’m strongly in the “it’s all physical” camp. Taking drugs changes the minds of people while those drugs are in the system. That people feel their thinking change, is proof for me, that it’s all physical, since it can be influenced by physical means, e.g. drugs.

Now we both stated our beliefs, but I don’t think we will get a real answer in the close future and I don’t think we will convince the other person, so thanks again for explaining your reasoning.

What is the reasoning that you believe that your consciousness can’t arise out of physical matter?

Oh for sure, that might be the case. But everything already written in some holy book or told in some ritual now definitely lacked those sophisticated machines, making all their content moot and you can safely disregard them.

So due to the lack of any information, you can’t prepare and therefore can’t expect anything. So it’s better to be good for its own sake, then trying to appease some bronze/iron age divinity.

You know, it’s almost like politics affects everything. Strange thing that.

I don’t want to debate politics everytime myself, but the fact stays that at the end of the day, everything is political

Just one question: on which keyboard are 4 and 9 close to each other to get typoed *X-Files music starts*

It almost seems like you never heard of Clayton Bigsby?

Nah, I would say pretty much same idea of disregarding civilian life.

So you see Israel also as terrorist club now?