No no no, they don’t say it’s genocide. I’m pretty sure they are fully aware it’s genocide, as that’s the purpose.

Russian decisions over the past few years haven’t exactly shown much long-term strategic choices or forethought, so I doubt this is an argument for them

The US will attach an angry letter to the next shipment of bombs, I’m sure.

They have just fucking stopped halfway covering what they are doing haven’t they? They realised that daddy US will protect them no matter what, so now they just go full steam ahead.

You know, even though it’s still rewarding Israel’s actions in a way, out of all the support the US is giving, this one I probably mind the least. It will prevent further innocent deaths (regardless of what side they are on, this is always a net positive), and it can’t be used by Israel against the Palestinian and Lebanese people. Let the US take over all of the defense of Israel if it means they stop delivering bombs and missiles that Israel will use to further their genocide.

I don’t think Israel would give a shit either way, and I don’t think they would face any more consequences from the international community than some strong words.

After later being a soldier for Israel and a “freelance strategy consultant” who co-produced a propaganda podcast with a member of the IOF’s social media team, Keller-Lynn later was published by the Wall Street Journal, covering Israel. Then, she obtained an intelligence dossier from Israel—and published damaging information about Israel’s avowed enemy the week the ICJ ordered it to pull back.

A few days later, Channel 4 in Britain got the dossier and said it contained “no evidence” to support Israel’s “explosive new claim” that “around 190 Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorist operatives” had worked as UNRWA employees and “more than 10 staffers took part in the events of 7th of October.” But by then the damage was done: UNRWA had lost hundreds of millions of funding. There is no telling when, or if, it will come back.

How was anything reported by Keller-Lynn ever “objective” news journalism?

The dossier mentioned in the WSJ article (an article authored by a known Israeli propagandist, for the record) did not contain any evidence supporting the claim that was made

https://lithub.com/journalism-as-a-front-of-war-on-american-media-and-the-ideology-of-the-status-quo/

I also advice you to read this, and consider the impact such propaganda has on real people. Real human beings. https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1754881912550646078

Do you really want to be on that side of history? Do you want to look back on your life when you are on your deathbed and realize you supported the slaughter of tens- to hundreds of thousands of human beings just like you and me, based on lies and deception? And to have further spread and supported these lies?

The main activities of UN Watch

Monitor UN activities, resolutions, or official statements that are construed to be critical of Israel.[4]

Lobby for the removal of UN personnel who are considered critical of Israel[5]

Forming coalitions to leverage influence at the UN. This also entails assisting the interests of other groups to later count on their support.[6]

Lobby for the inclusion of AJC approved personnel; this is a standard operating procedure by the American Jewish Committee[7]

From https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/UN_Watch

UN Watch is very much still Israeli propaganda, or rather a lobbying organisation

PMW believes that the key to the future is peace education. Our research, however, shows that Palestinian children have not been given that key. More than three decades since the signing of the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority is still actively poisoning the minds of its children with hate.

Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) is a non-profit Israeli research institute

You can come back to me when you have a source that not blatantly Israeli propaganda

Yes, they keep Palestinians alive, thereby slowing down Israels mission to kill them all and therefore prolonging the conflict.

Israel wants the land without the people, both in Gaza and the West Bank. Everything they do is to achieve that goal, whichever way.

What does it matter? Anyone with the power to do something against them, doesn’t care about their lies and supports them unconditionally. All they need to do is control their internal media cycle so that the “wins”, no matter how fake, are present enough that the Israeli citizens don’t care about the correction a week later, because there’s a new lie to get behind.

They’re taking a page out of Russia’s playbook and it’s working.

“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

This is the working definition of antisemitism as per the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance. Criticising the Israeli government for behaviour they exhibit does not fall under this definition, and therefore we can’t be “antisemitic as hell. By definition”.

Stop equating Israel to the Jewish people, they are not the same.

The Palestinian state is recognised by the majority of countries in the world (currently 145 out of 193, and growing, like recently by Spain, Norway, Slovenia and Ireland).

I suggest you look up UN resolution 181 and see what parts of “The British Mandate for Palestina” (interesting last word in that name) were actually given to Israel, and which parts were left to the “Palestinian arab population”. You’ll find that Israel is occupying large areas of land that the British did not actually give to them.

Just because Israels propaganda does not want a Palestinian state to exist, does not make it so.

Always fun how Israel apologists fall back to “you’re an antisemite” once they know they have no valid argument left.

You’re devaluating “anti-Semitism” by misusing it, and as a result you are hurting Jewish people. Furthermore, by equating Israel to Judaism, you’re propagating that any misbehaviour by the Israeli government reflects the will of the Jewish people, further damaging the Jewish people worldwide.

So you blame Palestina for existing and being constantly under attack by terrorists… “how dare you fight back!” man cant make this shit up

That argument works both ways

(Even if you oppose the classification of Israel as “terrorists” - although fair given the definition - replace terrorist in that sentence with “Israel” and the sentiment is exactly the same)

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Lol what? I’m clearly not saying that, I’m arguing Israeli lives are not worth more than Palestinian. My whole point is that a life is a life, I don’t give a rats ass what side of an imaginary line on a map that person was born.

Okay, let’s assume only half are innocent (that’s generous given the statistics of the invasion so far). That’s still more than 100 innocent human beings murdered. Families torn apart, children orphaned, parents that have to bury their children, or families that simply stopped existing. How anyone can celebrate that outcome as a success I will never understand.