I am amazed at the achievement, and even more amazed at how much people can cheer at anything like madmen.

If the US or EU want to keep up, they can sunbsidize EV manufacturing to the same degree

You can’t allow dumping-inducing subsidies without also allowing defensive tariffs, otherwise the richer and more authoritarian countries, which have greater capacity for subsidies and greater ability to concentrate them in specific sectors, will easily kill foreign competition and establish monopolies.

The marketplace brah is a place where, without regulations that maintain a degree of fairness, the rich kills the poor, competition dies off, and consumers are drained to their last cent.

Just think of it: competition is when different actors fight it off and it ends the moment one of the contenders wins.
If you want the fight to go on forever, you don’t want an unregulated market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy) (it’s not limited to EVs)

Subsidizing sales of EVs (ie. I pay for my neighbor’s new EV because I want cleaner air) does make environmental sense.

Subsidizing production does not have the same positive environmental impact, mainly because factories in China pollute more than factories, say, in the EU (due to different environmental laws), but also because moving finished products from China to the “west” obviously pollutes more than moving just those components that would need to be sourced from China anyways (eg. batteries).

As for the “makes economic sense” part… IDK: I guess that mainly depend on your political stance.
Personally, I don’t like that both sales and production subsidies have the effect of moving money from the poor to the rich, but other people may focus on different effects (eg. more production = more jobs) and support subsides.
In case you wonder: my take is that, instead of incentivizing adoption and production of EVs, one should disincentivize internal combustion vehicles by adding taxes to them (which, in a sense, aren’t really taxes but just charging for the very real environmental costs society as a whole will have to pay for your shiny SUV).

Anyone not doing this is an idiot and a climate terrorist.

You should really think twice before spewing judgements… and also avoid misusing words like “terrorist” because, when misused this way, it only conveys that you don’t like someone, dulling your message instead of strengthening it.

That’s catchy, but not entirely true.

China heavily subsidizes EV manufacturers (and production in general), plus they have cheaper environmental and labour standards… it’s not like there’s a fair market EU companies can compete in without some sort of handicap.

PS: Yes, “western” countries have been playing along with China’s deliberate long term strategy with full awareness of where it would lead, but that’s another story that is both much older and has a much broader scope than the EV industry.

It may not be a scam per se, but it certainly is a misnomer at this point… it’s one of those words (like “enterprise” or “pro”) that have been appropriated by marketing and devoided of any meaning. AI as a word will gradually die while people gradually realize it doesn’t mean anything. Marketing consumes words (and people too).

Nice, but the name should be AS Roma :)

I actually found the tone of the article (which is in tune with the title) quite refreshing, to the point that I read it all despite the fact I couldn’t care less about cars :)

IDK about the US press (I live elsewhere) but sometimes I feel the news could benefit from more candidly opinionated articles like this one and less professional-sounding pieces crafted to influence the readers’ opinions instead of informing them of the writer’s.

To put an even finer point on it, Musk’s tweet today announcing that “all core systems are now on X.com” featured the logo of the company he founded 25 years ago.

That’s the news… is it newsworthy?

I can’t wait for chatGPT to learn it should answer every disjunctive question with “por que no los dos?”

How does it compare to crypto?

Windows is getting worse and worse

and so is the press :( websites and content creators enshittification is as bad as other companies (one could even argue they have been among the first to do that)

Err… you are asking that even if I literally said it is world news and only complained about how little relevance (global newsworthiness) the fact has?

Anyways, it seems I must have mistaken the purpose of this community… I have no interest in a twitter-like feed or random low-quality news from all over the world so I’m leaving. Sorry if I’ve been a bother.

Removed by mod

@mods, this community needs a rule establishing some minimum relevancy threshold. News like the one in this post may technically be “world news” but they would hardly be worth a mention in any non-local newspaper

a rounding error on my part, sorry 😋

More seriously, I was thinking more of foss desktop environments and user programs (which are basically the same all over) than about the actual os - thanks for correcting me

linux rules because it’s the only os built for its users rather than some company stocks

(only tangentially related) what does ‘driver’ mean in windows lingo? I thought it was hardware-related stuff but I’m probably wrong.

TBH it’s not like Palestinian’s resistance equipment and capabilities have seemed much of a concern for Israel even when they were at 100%…

As it’s often the case with statements published during wartime (and also ones in more peaceful times), it’s more interesting to look at where the statement comes from and ask oneself why they say so now than the actual contents of the statement (which are often unverifiable anyways).

capitalism in a nutshell