Well no one can prove they have a mind to anyone other than themselves.

And to extend that, there’s obviously a way for electrical information processing to give rise to consciousness. And no one knows how that could be possible.

Meaning something like a true, alien AI would probably conclude that we are not conscious and instead are just very intelligent meat computers.

So, while there’s no reason to believe that current AI models could result in consciousness, no one can prove the opposite either.

I think the argument currently boils down to, “we understand how AI models work, but we don’t understand how our minds work. Therefore, ???, and so no consciousness for AI”

He’s successful in spite of himself. He makes terrible decisions constantly.

The people who claim “real estate value!” have just latched onto the simplest reason they can which aligns with their worldview.

The reasons I suspect companies are forcing return to office are more:

• shareholders don’t like unused assets, so they tell the ceo to “use it or lose it”
• the people who make the decision have the type of extroverted personality where they actually do work better in the office and they can’t fathom people being different
• the people who make the decision prefer to have the office full because it makes them feel more powerful. They can see the people they lord over.

Lol you confidently incorrect dumbass. Gravity is the problem of modern physics and you think you can boil it down to a simple force of attraction?

There are theories that it’s an illusion and theories that it’s caused by time itself. But you’ve gone and proved my point by basically saying, “SEE, APPLE FALL DOWN”

Oof calm down man. Breathe. Also, your gravity analogy works against you.

In the gravity analogy, someone would be claiming they understand 100% of what makes up gravity, “it’s the curvature of space time. That’s it. Job done. Go home quantum theorists”

If electrical signals are all that is required to give rise to consciousness, then a computer would be conscious. But since it’s obviously not, there’s a big gap there. One that is so far inexplicable. And yet you’re drawing conclusions about it.

Shouting about it doesn’t do anything.

So do electrical impulses always give rise to consciousness? Is my computer self aware?

Please explain how electrical impulses can give rise to a sense of self. The actual experience of consciousness rather than brains simply being organic computers.

Put another way, is my computer conscious? Why is it not, but I am?

It would help all of their competitors. A non zero number of people would move from windows to each of the others.

Whether or not the number moving away from windows and on to each of the others is significant or not is a different matter.

The biggest thing helping Linux right now is Valve’s work improving the gaming experience, IMO.

Not even the clouds are safe!

Or classic torrents combined with a VPN.

Tesla under pays compared to other car companies.

Millennials, according to Wikipedia,

The generation typically being defined as people born from 1981 to 1996

After that is Gen Z and Gen Alpha starts somewhere around 2010.

So 1997 would be an older Gen Z

Distinction without a difference in this case.

It’s not commercial real estate. There’s no reason for a CEO to care about real estate. This is just the reason given by people who believe all companies only ever do things for the money. So they’ve made up a reason they think fits.

Why would a company care about the real estate market when it can make more money having its staff work from home? Have you ever seen a company care about something that doesn’t benefit them in the short term?

People keep bringing up real estate because everyone thinks the rich are evil and this move must be money related somehow.

Now, I too think they’re pretty rotten for the most part.

But returning to office is not about real estate.

Companies are ruthless and if they can increase profits at all, they will do pretty much anything to do so. Firing long-time workers, destroying the planet, etc. So if they had to destroy the real estate market to make more money, they would.

My point here is that if it was just about money, everyone would remain WFH. They could downsize the office, or even lease out the space to the companies that are returning to the office.

So then why are they doing it? It’s their preference. They prefer having their underlings in the building and enjoy seeing everyone from their corner office. They like feeling powerful which is harder to do when everyone who works for them is at home.

They might also have the kind of personality where they get more work done with others around, and they can’t imagine it being different for other people. Many high-up executives only got that far because they have very extroverted personalities.

Not everything a rich person does is strictly about money. Otherwise they wouldn’t buy mansions, supercars, private planes, etc. Apple wouldn’t have built the billion dollar donut office. They do these things because they’re powerful and want others to know.

Candles were once a significant cost. But lightbulbs are incredibly cheap.

Food used to take a whole day to acquire.

We have things that even royalty didn’t have before, like air conditioning, out-of-season food, international travel, etc.

Capitalism sucks for sure. But it has given society a few benefits, and sometimes things do get significantly cheaper long term (but I’m generally skeptical about which items will go that way)

Picking and choosing which one to fix “first” is a problem, IMO.

We are capable of tackling every area simultaneously. Let’s get more EVs out there, let’s try hydrogen-powered airplanes, more nuclear, and sails on ships.

Let’s do everything we can.

It just comes down to whether or not the fuel saved is worth more than the sail maintenance. Hopefully it is.

I don’t eat meat. But that’s beside the point.

There’s a difference between one person doing something and 10% of the population doing it. The latter would have a meaningful impact, but the former would not.

And the key part of my point is the average individual cannot make 10% of the population do anything.

If 10% of the population are vegetarians, it has nothing to do with what any single person did. A single person is almost always powerless to affect the world.