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Totally fair and reasonable
Most of us don’t read classics anymore. I always hated Moby Dick; it sucks so bad.
I know what little I know from watching nature documentaries and I think it’s the same with other Americans. Most of us never get to see an actual whale in our lives, let alone eat any.
Here’s the problem: everyone is fundamentally misinterpreting free speech. It doesn’t mean what people think it does: it’s not about stopping government oppression, it’s about enforcing fundamental respect for human beings, which means hate speech is banned regardless – because bigotry and hate speech by its nature censors other human beings, because it creates an environment where people are discredited and shunned by their peers for stupid reasons, denying them their right to be respected and heard. Hate speech isn’t speech, it’s censorship, and needs to be treated as a censoring act and not as speech since it’s not speech, it’s an action done with intent.
When people adopt that definition of free speech, we can go back to having our cake and eating it too and we’ll start to get back on the right path.
Huh. I must confess, as a American I know all of jack and shit about whaling and such given we don’t eat whale like that over here. Not even our ruling class eats whale.
…What does whale taste like?
I’m gonna throw this out there: if we’re gonna have freedom of speech, it has to include advocating for the violent overthrow of the government.
The people are supposed to be in control, not the government and if the people have the rhetorical means to take their government down taken away in such a manner, they’re not in control anymore. And we see where that kind of thinking leads us
I’m not asserting anything, I’m asking you a question. I have no skin in this game or underlying point; I’m asking you because you claim you’re from the area and I want to know more. So:
That’s really the only kind of whale you eat? What about the other kinds you hunt, or used to hunt?
What about the other ones?
AI generated pictures suck
Whales are endangered for the most part
😨 And people are just okay with this?
They sure are, bro. They sure are
And what’s most important is you putting smart people down to make yourself feel superior to them
And this is why you don’t allow societies to have police
Assuming it’s about control or that you can’t control it is the worst. There’s always something we can do about our problems. To think otherwise is to allow yourself to be consumed by them.
It would take 5, maybe 10 years at most to build a Lofstrom loop making it possible to send out unmanned mining craft en masse, and then have the craft process minerals in zero g and then dump the calcium into the ocean. Furnish the magnesium into rebar and run a current theough it when it’s stuck in the deep sea. We could even build nice seasteading islands at the same time with that approach – create more living space while undoing the damage we’ve done to the oceans. Win-win.
Governments are running experiments on SSPSes now, in no small psrt because of climate change.
We absolutely can and should take the space approach now while we still have time.
Speaking of time, we can and should launch a solar shade up there to immediately stop the warming to give us the time we need to decarbonize, and clean up the oceans and forests. A solar shade will cool the Earth without the baggage and environmental problems associated with dumping sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere as the U.S. and EU are considering.
Of all the options, the solar shade might be the most mandatory, and would be very doable cheaply with a Lofstrom loop.
It literally wouldn’t even matter, you’ll just deny it and refuse to concede even the most minor of points because for you, debate is not a means to find truth, it’s a power play. We’ve all seen it countless times. We know your game, your patterns of behavior, and since you do not want to play fairly because you’ll know you’ll lose, you don’t get to play at all. You don’t get to participate in discussions with us, especially not me. You’re isolated to your cult now. I hope you find happiness in choosing genocide.
I don’t care if you feel convinced or not. It’s the truth. New large trucks will always put out more CO2 than electric cars, even considering manufacturing, and that doesn’t change just because you don’t want to hear it. And that’s the end of the debate.
Holy fuck, you right-wing traitors are out in full force today, aren’t you?
🎼 'Cause I’m proud to be an American 🎵🎶🇺🇲🦅