• conquer4@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Nuclear, preferably fusion works out and energy becomes a non-issue. But nothing else we have can beat the reliability, energy density and power-to-emissions ratio of nuclear.

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      7 months ago

      I’m very sick of hearing about nuclear from Reddit/lemmy. If it was a realistic, affordable solution we’d be doing it. But it’s not. It just seems like it is to the layman.

      There’s a reason the market and governments went all in on renewables and it isn’t just paranoia about nuclear accidents. Building a nuclear plant takes ten years minimum and it’s incredibly expensive, and has a lower margin for profit. In that amount of time governments/companies can build tens of thousands of renewable energy stations.

      The issue of waste from solar is real, but the fact is even with that waste it’s done far more to reduce emissions than nuclear ever has or ever could.

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        If it was a realistic, affordable solution we’d be doing it.

        No, if it wasn’t lobbied against and fearmongered by oil and coal, public sentiment would support it and funding would go along with it. If you think it’s cheaper to throw massive solar panels into every open field and that we’d get anywhere approaching the energy a nuclear power plant could produce then you’ve lost the plot.

        it isn’t just paranoia about nuclear accidents.

        Yes it is.

        Building a nuclear plant takes ten years minimum and it’s incredibly expensive,

        The energy output offsets the cost faster than alternatives and if we started ten years ago we’d have them by now. Not starting right now because you think it’s too late is the reason they weren’t built a decade ago. Some kind of fuckin reverse sunk cost fallacy with you people. Also, ten years minimum? Some have been built in three years.

        The issue of waste from solar is real, but the fact is even with that waste it’s done far more to reduce emissions than nuclear ever has or ever could.

        Dumbest shit you’ve said in this post so I’m glad you left it till last. Since 1971 Nuclear Power is estimated to have prevented 64 trillion gigatons of carbon emissions. To put it into perspective, that’s the amount the United States would generate if we powered ourselves completely with coal for 35 years. The positive climate impact of nuclear is so incomprehensibly superior to renewables that your stance against it isn’t just stupid - it’s costing lives.

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          7 months ago

          It’s hilarious how utterly delusional you are lol. Yeah you go ahead and keep telling yourself that an oil industry conspiracy is pushing renewables over nuclear and not the fundamental economics of the situation. Nuclear isn’t and never will be a realistic solution to climate change.

          Also— your own article states that the fastest nuclear reactors were built in Japan. Well guess what, that’s bizarr because Japan skirted all kinds of safety practices to build their reactors and that’s how you get garbage plants like Fukushima. All of the new reactors getting built now are planned for ten years or more, which your article also confirms.

          And no, you are blatantly wrong that only paranoia is getting in the way of nuclear. Countries aren’t building nuclear because it makes no fucking sense when you can generate the same amount of power for far cheaper with renewables. Renewables are also serving as the baseline power source all around the world and they do the job just fine. Nuclear isn’t needed.

          It’s obvious you’re just another rude, know-it-all douchebag who is actually far more ignorant on this topic than you realize. Straight to my blocked list.

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            7 months ago

            I’ve long since lost patience with idiots, especially ones that resort to blocking when they’re wrong. Take care o/

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        7 months ago

        It just seems like it is to the layman.

        Ought from an is. Basic fallacy.

        Building a nuclear plant takes ten years minimum and it’s incredibly expensive, and has a lower margin for profit. In that amount of time governments/companies can build tens of thousands of renewable energy stations.

        No. France built many in half that length of time. It does have a low profit margin because it is the only energy source that fully captures it’s external costs. Your solar power is only possible because the cells are “recycled” in places where they don’t give a fuck.

        The issue of waste from solar is real, but the fact is even with that waste it’s done far more to reduce emissions than nuclear ever has or ever could.

        I want a citation of that. And given that nuclear power is seven decades old very much good luck with that.