• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    5 months ago

    The wealthy elite get their position through violence and exploitation

    Yes, exactly, exploiting people’s poor decisions. Like predatory loans.

    this reminds me of that “why don’t homeless people just buy a house” kind of attitude.

    You are intentionally taking away the wrong message.

    Anarchists are all about rules and regulations

    …what? LOL that’s the polar opposite of anarchy…

    I’d encourage you to seek out and read more about it.

    Oh ok sure, let me do that:

    anarchy noun an·ar·chy ˈa-nər-kē -ˌnär-

    1a: absence of government

    b: a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority

    c: a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

    2a: absence or denial of any authority or established order

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      Predatory loans is a great example - they’re not taken out because people have bad decision making ability but because they’re left with no other choices. If you’re poor and you’re struggling to make ends meet, your credit card is already maxed out because you had to fix your car and you can’t afford groceries what other option do you have other than a short term loan?

      Quoting the dictionary isn’t how you learn about things! You know that, you little rascal! If youre interested in the etymology, the term anarchism comes from the greek “an archos”, e.g. without hierarchy. It is possible to have laws without hierarchy.

      An absence of state, definitely. Government? Depends on your definition of government but if you take it to mean state then sure. Lawlessness and disorder, definitely not - I’ve been to several anarchist collective groups and they’re some of the most well-structured, organised and managed events going.

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        5 months ago

        Predatory loans is a great example

        Yes it is.

        they’re not taken out because people have bad decision making ability but because they’re left with no other choices.

        Bruh have you forgotten about the global recession of 2006? There were people that had 4 and 5 houses.

        You’ve never heard of the auto loan scams?

        Never heard of the mobile home scams?

        None of those situations are improved by people taking out loans they know they can’t afford.

        Quoting the dictionary isn’t how you learn about things!

        So…how am I supposed to learn, exactly? You’re going to tell me? Wikipedia says something similar. If there’s another definition, that’s not the one I was referring to. But you knew that, didn’t you?

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          Sure, go read the Wikipedia article, that’ll give you a solid foundation! I’d suggest the Conquest of Bread if you’re interested, or google “what is Anarchism”

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            5 months ago

            Have they considered renaming the movement? It’s a bit like “believe all women” or “anti-work”. You’re shooting yourself in the foot by using words with concrete definitions that don’t mean what you’re trying to convey.

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              It’s the other way around - because the establishment has so much to fear from anarchism, they peddle anti-anarchist propaganda. If we renamed anarchism, they’d just do the same thing. Anarchism does exactly what the name implies - against heirarchies.

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                  5 months ago

                  I’m not really sure I understand what you mean, sorry. Lots of people have misconceptions and some of those misconceptions are intentionally fed to us. You know, propaganda and such? Lots of people have a really skewed perception of what anarchism is, so I guess that makes them wrong about anarchism, if that’s what you mean!

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                    5 months ago

                    Lots of people have misconceptions

                    I mean when everyone else has a common understanding of the term, and you’re the only one with the “correct” understanding, doesn’t it make more sense that maybe you are the one with the misunderstanding?