• jaschen@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    In Taiwan, nobody uses iMessage. It’s an app called Line and it’s basically the WeChat of Taiwan.

    So we can basically hop from Apple to Android without issues with our messages. So that’s why the % of Apple users are not inflated because of the dark patterns they are doing in the US.

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      5 months ago

      In Europe everyone uses WhatsApp and I‘d rather use iMessage than sell my soul to meta… (Which I am. And Signal and Telegram. Only using WhatsApp for work)

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        5 months ago

        Unfortunately, I don’t trust Apple either. I think Telegram or Signal might be a good option, but then again. They are just a CEO away from it being shitty.

        I wish there was a better solution that is OSS but it won’t catch on.

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          5 months ago

          I trust them a bit more than meta or google. Meta‘s main business model is selling data/ads. Apple’s main business model is selling hardware.

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            5 months ago

            I think they sell the perception of privacy. They might not sell your data, but they certainly use that data to sell to you. They only care about profits and any privacy that you think you might have is just a byproduct of that greed.

            Apple is an optics company and damn good at it too.

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    5 months ago

    They’re also adding a lot more incompatible text formatting and shit to keep Android incomplete with their real chat protocol. Gotta keep those teens bullying Android users. Also E2E encryption would be nice, but the EU didn’t force them to do that.

    Still great because MMS is garbage and ruins photo and video quality.

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      5 months ago

      That’s how I react to those bubbles. It means any image I send is going to be compressed to shit and be utterly unrecognizable. Messages will sent out of order or not at all. Group chats are completely fucked.

      I’m sure Apple shares a lot of the blame, but holy shit how is this not solved in 2024. I shouldn’t have to resort to spam filled shitware from Meta to get remotely modern messaging cross platform

      Hope rcs pans out and soon

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        5 months ago

        Apple doesn’t “share a lot of the blame.” The blame belongs solely to Apple and their insistence on a closed ecosystem. They intentionally hamstring any cross functionality with competing devices, even features as simple as text messaging. It’s important for Apple to foster a cult-like mentality among their consumers.

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      5 months ago

      I do, and I couldn’t care less. I think a visual indicator that tells me “hey, this is an iMessage” or “hey, this is an SMS/RCS message” is a very good thing to have.

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        5 months ago

        You don’t care, because you’re an adult, what you or I see as a simple visual indicator is yet another thing that HS teens will use to bully and peer pressure with.

        But you should care in the sense that Apple is exploiting teens still developing brains and maturity with dark patterns to get them “hooked for life” in a way.

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          5 months ago

          I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. The problem isn’t the fact that the indicator exists. A lot of it is because it’s an ugly green bubble, and Apple refuses to change it because bullying kids is great marketing for Apple.

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            5 months ago

            I doubt the bullying would be any different if it was a beautiful red (or whatever is considered a pretty chat bubble) instead.

            And even if it was a blue bubble, the bullies would find another reason to bully someone.

            I get the peer pressure part and sure Apple might be exploiting that in America, but in the past it was clothing brands or whatever it is now. Making the bubbles the same color (or even bringing iMessage over to Android completely) would get rid of a single symptom, not of the root cause.

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              5 months ago

              Clothing gets you negative comments. iMessage gets people to exclude you from group chats or even text messaging completely. It’s become far more socially acceptable to isolate someone because of what they don’t own.

              Even if this were the same level of bullying, the amount of resources that Apple needs to fix this is negligible compared to clothing companies or whathaveyou. You can’t update a shirt. You can easily update the color of a bubble or implement an industry standard. Apple refuses to even try to fix this issue, and in my eyes, they’re 100% complicit in enabling bullying.