So I learned recently countries have a calculation of how many civilians would be acceptable casualties in order to eliminate a high value target.
For example, the US in it’s hunt for Bin-Laden, had an acceptable civilian casualty number of 30 to kill him.
Israel just killed 71 and wounded who knows how many more to hit a guy I’ve never heard of. They say they probably didn’t get him, and today I learned they’ve already killed his family in other strikes and he may have even been dead for years at this point.
The casualty math is gross but I get it. What Israel is doing is pure atrocity. Biden needs to get off Netanyahu and the Republicans’ collective dick or we will have Trump cheering shit like this on.
Deif is right after Sinwar in the chain of command in Gaza.
Rafa Salama, the commander of the Khan Younis Brigade, was also targeted in that strike.
The attack was on a fenced Hamas compound. I’ve seen they already published satellite pictures from before and after the strike.
And so far I haven’t seen reports that distinguish between combatants and civilians. Either way Hamas combatants usually don’t wear uniforms. You can see it in the videos they publish.
Deif is right after Sinwar in the chain of command in Gaza. Rafa Salama, the commander of the Khan Younis Brigade, was also targeted in that strike. The attack was on a fenced Hamas compound. I’ve seen they already published satellite pictures from before and after the strike.
You claim something but provide no evidence for the readers of your comment. So where’s the evidence? I’m curious. Any article I find writes only about Deif being the target, here’s one of them written on 13 July 2024:
It is not yet known if Deif was killed in the Israeli strike that targeted him Saturday
Israel’s military says it targeted Mohammed Deif, the commander of Hamas’s military wing, in a strike Saturday.
Israel said Saturday that it targeted Mohammed Deif, the shadowy Hamas military leader, in an operation in the Mawasi area of southern Gaza. There was no immediate confirmation that Deif was killed, but the strikes on an area packed with displaced people left at least 90 Palestinians dead and 300 injured, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.
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I’ve seen they already published satellite pictures from before and after the strike
You have already ‘seen’ it but provide no link to the source of your claim where you’ve seen it. Provide a source; otherwise, it’s just a rumor or a lie.
And so far I haven’t seen reports that distinguish between combatants and civilians. Either way Hamas combatants usually don’t wear uniforms. You can see it in the videos they publish.
The article is paywalled but the article is not the point, the image they use is. It shows how Hamas dresses usually. Sometimes they do wear normal clothes, just as IDF soldiers do. Did you forget what IDF did? Let me remind you:
The Israeli military said the strike against Deif also targeted Rafa Salama, the commander of Hamas’ Khan Younis Brigade, describing them as two of the masterminds of the Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel that triggered the nine-month war in Gaza
About the pictures, this article shows them.
Reuters also mentioned them, but it’s written they haven’t verified them yet.
I should’ve clarified. They aren’t currently using uniforms. As in, in the fighting since the 7th of October. They justify it themselves in interviews and you can see it in videos of theirs.
And that isn’t the IDF, it’s the Israeli police’s counter-terrorism unit.
I should’ve clarified. They aren’t currently using uniforms. As in, in the fighting since the 7th of October. They justify it themselves in interviews and you can see it in videos of theirs.
It does not matter whether they are doing it now, later or in the past. My point is: both sides are purposefully blending in society of the Palestinian people and that Hamas does indeed have their own military uniforms.
About the pictures, this article shows them. Reuters also mentioned them, but it’s written they haven’t verified them yet.
So it is not verified yet or is it? As long as it is not verified by someone else than Israel or Hamas, how certain can we as viewers and readers be? Israel is known for lying to the entire world. Few examples of their lies:
And that isn’t the IDF, it’s the Israeli police’s counter-terrorism unit.
Making a distinct between IDF and their police unit does not matter. Israel is doing it as well. That’s my point. Therefore you cannot only ‘point fingers’ to Hamas.
Honestly my whole point of argument is; there’s no justifying what Israel has been doing since 7 October. Way (way) to many innocent Palestinian civillains have been murdered by Israel with very little ‘‘victory’’ for Israel. Israel’s PM goal is not achievable at all. Because Hamas will forever exist as long as Israel is the occupier, stealing land, illegal settlements, Apartheid and everything else they do towards the Palestinian people.
"Speaking to Newshour on the BBC World Service, Dr Mohammed Abu Rayya, who is at a hospital dealing with the aftermath of the attack, said the majority of those injured were suffering from multiple shrapnel wounds.
He said it was like being in “hell”, adding that many of the casualties were civilians, notably women and children. "
So I learned recently countries have a calculation of how many civilians would be acceptable casualties in order to eliminate a high value target.
For example, the US in it’s hunt for Bin-Laden, had an acceptable civilian casualty number of 30 to kill him.
Israel just killed 71 and wounded who knows how many more to hit a guy I’ve never heard of. They say they probably didn’t get him, and today I learned they’ve already killed his family in other strikes and he may have even been dead for years at this point.
The casualty math is gross but I get it. What Israel is doing is pure atrocity. Biden needs to get off Netanyahu and the Republicans’ collective dick or we will have Trump cheering shit like this on.
Deif is right after Sinwar in the chain of command in Gaza.
Rafa Salama, the commander of the Khan Younis Brigade, was also targeted in that strike.
The attack was on a fenced Hamas compound. I’ve seen they already published satellite pictures from before and after the strike.
And so far I haven’t seen reports that distinguish between combatants and civilians. Either way Hamas combatants usually don’t wear uniforms. You can see it in the videos they publish.
Stop lying and stop trying to justify war crimes.
Lying about what?
The subject of this thread is about a strike on an army compound. That’s not a war crime.
No, the subject is attack of the state terrorist group, namely IDF on unarmed civilians in the refugee camp.
You claim something but provide no evidence for the readers of your comment. So where’s the evidence? I’m curious. Any article I find writes only about Deif being the target, here’s one of them written on 13 July 2024:
Who is Mohammed Deif, Hamas military commander targeted by Israel?
From the article:
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You have already ‘seen’ it but provide no link to the source of your claim where you’ve seen it. Provide a source; otherwise, it’s just a rumor or a lie.
Not entirely true either: Israel Sought to Contain Hamas for Years. Now It Faces a Potentially Costly Fight to Eliminate It.
The article is paywalled but the article is not the point, the image they use is. It shows how Hamas dresses usually. Sometimes they do wear normal clothes, just as IDF soldiers do. Did you forget what IDF did? Let me remind you:
Israeli special forces disguised as doctors kill three militants at West Bank hospital
Israeli troops dressed as civilians and medics kill three during raid on West Bank hospital.
Israeli special forces dressed as Palestinian refugees for hostage rescue: Sources.
Even ‘‘better’’, here’s a video of IDF dressed as women in action:
About Rafa?
Sure: Yahoo, Reuters, Asharq Al-Awsat
Quote from Reuters:
About the pictures, this article shows them.
Reuters also mentioned them, but it’s written they haven’t verified them yet.
I should’ve clarified. They aren’t currently using uniforms. As in, in the fighting since the 7th of October. They justify it themselves in interviews and you can see it in videos of theirs.
And that isn’t the IDF, it’s the Israeli police’s counter-terrorism unit.
Thanks for the sources.
It does not matter whether they are doing it now, later or in the past. My point is: both sides are purposefully blending in society of the Palestinian people and that Hamas does indeed have their own military uniforms.
So it is not verified yet or is it? As long as it is not verified by someone else than Israel or Hamas, how certain can we as viewers and readers be? Israel is known for lying to the entire world. Few examples of their lies:
IDF found a calendar in Arabic, not a Hamas ‘names list’ at hospital
Israeli soldier claims Arabic calendar is Hamas ‘guardian list’
Watching the watchdogs: Babies and truth die together in Israel-Palestine
Making a distinct between IDF and their police unit does not matter. Israel is doing it as well. That’s my point. Therefore you cannot only ‘point fingers’ to Hamas.
Honestly my whole point of argument is; there’s no justifying what Israel has been doing since 7 October. Way (way) to many innocent Palestinian civillains have been murdered by Israel with very little ‘‘victory’’ for Israel. Israel’s PM goal is not achievable at all. Because Hamas will forever exist as long as Israel is the occupier, stealing land, illegal settlements, Apartheid and everything else they do towards the Palestinian people.
"Speaking to Newshour on the BBC World Service, Dr Mohammed Abu Rayya, who is at a hospital dealing with the aftermath of the attack, said the majority of those injured were suffering from multiple shrapnel wounds.
He said it was like being in “hell”, adding that many of the casualties were civilians, notably women and children. "
Go to hell.