%%excerpt%% Reddit has commenced its assault on search engines, blocking those that don’t have a commercial relationship with the company, like Google.
No need to be defensive, ddg uses bing which means it is part of the big five under the hood. That always will have certain ramifications in the long run.
I also use it but I am looking for decentralised alternatives in meantime not because ddg is bad but because sooner or later it will get worse.
Also why are you so aggressive anyway, it’s super weird and doesn’t fit Lemmy
At best this is as intelligent as saying Google Maps is YouTube by another name because they’re both on Google servers. Even that would be smarter to say actually, because Google Maps and YouTube are owned by the same company.
They share hosting servers, that doesn’t make them the same service. When the power goes out do you think you and your neighbors live in the same house?
Just keep sucking down the hype. They don’t share the same hosting for the frontend but they both use the same backend. The backend is of course owned by microsoft. duckduckgo uses bings backend and somehow you have convinced yourself beyond all evidence to the contray that it isn’t bing with a different wrapper.
When you can’t pay Stardew Valley (because Steam is down) you also can’t play Eldenring. They must use the same backend and Eldenring is just Stardew Valley by another name.
You’re going to need a better source than “they go down at the same time”.
You are not getting it. Its a documented fact that duckduckgo uses bing search. You keep coming up with these other poor examples when its acknowledged by duckduckgo that they use bing. Of course they say they are more than bing but in the end that is just hype. This probably wont convince you since you are not looking for answers
I’ve started a Kagi subscription for my new search engine. Basically $6 USD per month but because it’s a user-pay model they have a really good privacy policy and don’t sell/analyze your data.
It’s currently better than Google (which I still use search in the maps for reviews)
You could give SearXNG a try. It’s open source, you can host it yourself, and it has no ads or tracking. Most other search engines (including DuckDuckGo) make their income from ads, that alone makes them untrustworthy in my book. I’m using https://searxng.online/ and it’s good enough.
This website shows the SearXNG public instances. It is updated every 24 hours, except the response times which are updated every 3 hours. It requires Javascript until the issue #9 is fixed.
Bing it is then. I hate Microsoft with the intensity of thousand suns but bing is now my jam as long as this lasts.
Try duckduckgo
DuckDuckGo also uses Bing under the hood.
Yes, duckduckgo uses other search engines to provide its results. Your point?
I don’t care where duckduckgo gets the links from, I care how relevant the top links are and that they aren’t being crowded out by ads.
No need to be defensive, ddg uses bing which means it is part of the big five under the hood. That always will have certain ramifications in the long run.
I also use it but I am looking for decentralised alternatives in meantime not because ddg is bad but because sooner or later it will get worse.
Also why are you so aggressive anyway, it’s super weird and doesn’t fit Lemmy
Bing by any other name is still bing.
Edit: Awww some people either don’t know or don’t like that bing is what duckduckgo is. https://www.tomshardware.com/software/search-engines/microsoft-suffering-from-outage-bing-copilot-and-duckduckgo-inaccessible-for-several-hours
At best this is as intelligent as saying Google Maps is YouTube by another name because they’re both on Google servers. Even that would be smarter to say actually, because Google Maps and YouTube are owned by the same company.
When bing goes down so does duckduckgo but somehow your apples to oranges argument is somehow comparative to you.
They share hosting servers, that doesn’t make them the same service. When the power goes out do you think you and your neighbors live in the same house?
Just keep sucking down the hype. They don’t share the same hosting for the frontend but they both use the same backend. The backend is of course owned by microsoft. duckduckgo uses bings backend and somehow you have convinced yourself beyond all evidence to the contray that it isn’t bing with a different wrapper.
When you can’t pay Stardew Valley (because Steam is down) you also can’t play Eldenring. They must use the same backend and Eldenring is just Stardew Valley by another name.
You’re going to need a better source than “they go down at the same time”.
You are not getting it. Its a documented fact that duckduckgo uses bing search. You keep coming up with these other poor examples when its acknowledged by duckduckgo that they use bing. Of course they say they are more than bing but in the end that is just hype. This probably wont convince you since you are not looking for answers
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/bing-outage-shows-just-how-little-competition-google-search-really-has/
This is because the company uses Microsoft’s Bing to power its search results.
From this article https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/duckduckgo-what-to-know-about-google-searchs-privacy-focused-rival/
https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2019/11/19/who-uses-bing-anyway Look at number 5.
Of course all these sources could be wrong and its just you who is right. Right?
Laters
I’ve started a Kagi subscription for my new search engine. Basically $6 USD per month but because it’s a user-pay model they have a really good privacy policy and don’t sell/analyze your data.
It’s currently better than Google (which I still use search in the maps for reviews)
You could give SearXNG a try. It’s open source, you can host it yourself, and it has no ads or tracking. Most other search engines (including DuckDuckGo) make their income from ads, that alone makes them untrustworthy in my book. I’m using https://searxng.online/ and it’s good enough.
Thanks I couldn’t remember the name of this.
https://searx.space/