Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; ‘The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,’ says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages’ location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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    I’m not saying that I trust Hamas. For the record, I don’t.

    I’m just saying that I don’t trust the IDF either, infamous as they are for being caught lying constantly.

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      Right, but you know hamas believes jews should be wiped from this earth, and you know this current war began because of specific steps Hamas chose to take to attempt to make that goal a reality, you know the mistreatment they have displayed towards the hostages.

      So for you to say that there is a 99% chance that Hamas is innocent of these killings, that’s a specific choice you are making for conspiricism.

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        Right, but you know hamas believes jews should be wiped from this earth,

        That’s irrelevant. They’re not in a position where doing so is possible, and killing their only leverage against a technologically and numerically superior force is not in their interest.

        The Israeli people thinking that they did, on the other hand, is VERY much in the interest of the IDF.

        you know this current war began because of specific steps Hamas chose to take to attempt to make that goal a reality

        Nope. Atrocious and barbaric beyond description as it was, October 7th was a political act, not a foolhardy attempt to kill all Jewish people.

        Just because they’re despicable terrorists doesn’t mean that Hamas are stupid enough to think that the total eradication of all Israeli Jews, let alone all Jews worldwide, is something that is in any way possible.

        And it’s not a war. It’s one of the biggest, most powerful, and most technologically advanced militaries in the history of humanity eradicating or displacing an entire people, using a tiny minority (that is nowhere near as much a threat as they pretend) as a pretense.

        you know the mistreatment they have displayed towards the hostages.

        Talking about Hamas or Israel? Because the only significant differences with regards to hostages is that Israel has hundreds if not thousands as many that they abuse just as horribly as Hamas does theirs.

        So for you to say that there is a 99% chance that Hamas is innocent of these killings

        Again ignoring the qualifier, so I’m gonna make it a little more obvious:

        As long as an IDF spokesperson is the ONLY source

        that’s a specific choice you are making for conspiricism.

        Nope, that’s a statement of how unreliable the IDF and their spokespeople have proven themselves to be. Repeatedly leaving out that part, though? THAT’S a specific choice.

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          Islam prophet died and the only possession he had was a shield owned by his jew neighbour.

          Any person of faith, including hamas, dont believe in “Jewish genocide” it goes against the religion.