Calls grow in Germany to ban far-right AfD – DW – 10/01/2024
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The Alternative for Germany (AfD) has gained ground in three recent state elections, caused an uproar in the Thuringian parliament and triggering another debate on whether to ban the party outright.

The Alternative for Germany (AfD) has gained ground in three recent state elections, caused an uproar in the Thuringian parliament and triggering another debate on whether to ban the party outright.

  • where_am_i@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    440·
    14 days ago

    They banned NPD and AFD happened.

    All you’ll get is a new party filling up the political vacuum and their audience being even more die-hard radicals.

    In a democracy where some 30% vote nazi, banning them won’t solve anything. Anything.

    No, I won’t shut up, because you and people like you are part of the problem. If you think the solution is to jail and ban your political opponents, I got bad news for you.

    • narp@feddit.orgEnglish
      42·
      14 days ago

      Nearly everything you said is just plain wrong:

      • The NPD never got banned (supposedly because the party was “insignificant”).
      • They renamed themselves “Die Heimat”.
      • If banned, a follow up party from the AfD would be automatically banned too.
      • You make it sound like 30% of Germans vote AfD, while they get that many votes mainly in the eastern states.
      • You talk about democracy and call Nazis “political opponents”. I got news for you: Those fascist scums’ only goal is to get rid of democracy, sell Europe to Russia and maybe start a third world war.

      So keep on talking as much as you like, everyone with half a brain can see right through you.

      • where_am_i@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        01·
        13 days ago

        ah, ok, tell me please, what exactly do you see right through? I wanna know. For research purposes. (And to report it to the headquarters, so we could improve our sabotage operation).

          • where_am_i@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            01·
            13 days ago

            Oh yeah, that last implication certainly is full of polite implying. I’m honored.

            You know what I see? Someone who’s afraid that their world order will change. And their solution is “lock them up while we’re in the majority”.

            You know what I also see? A failed German re-unification, extreme arrogance of the west Germans towards east Germans, a bouquet of additional socio-economical problems that have been ignored for decades. And a consequent voters’ revolt.

            And their solution? Tell all those angry people that they’re nazi and their problems will continue being ignored. I’m sure that will solve it.

            The party in question, AfD, is fuckin scary. They, in fact, are openly nazi. And, yet, I promise you, banning them and continuing to ignore the underlying issues will only make things worse.

            – Your Polite But Malicious Kremlin Bot

    • somenonewho@feddit.orgEnglish
      18·
      14 days ago

      Most of your points were already correctly dismantled. But I’d just like to ad to

      In a democracy where some 30% vote nazi, banning them won’t solve anything. Anything.

      Is a sentiment I often feel too. I believe that we have to do so much more to fight against Fascists than just Vote and “use the democratic system correctly”. (I.e. fight fascism in the streets, offer actual political solutions to peoples problems…). But to say this won’t do anything is a huge understatement.

      Banning the AfD will:

      1. Disband the party leaving them in shambles to reorganize
      2. Stop the money flow which is going to the AfD (and in turn to other right wing groups
      3. Finally delegitimize the AfD and their main actors in a Democratic setting

      A ban would be an amazing feat but it would just be a little breather in the fight against fascism.