The French government’s decision to ban children from wearing the abaya, the loose-fitting, full-length robes worn by some Muslim women, in state-run schools drew applause on Monday from the right, but also criticism.

  • A_Toasty_Strudel@lemmy.world
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    This is correct. Even if we don’t necessarily agree with why they’re choosing to wear it, saying that they’re outright not able to is completely unacceptable.

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      They are not choosing shit. They are being forced to wear them by their parents. It’s indoctrination and abuse

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        What? None of them are choosing to wear it?

        It’s all being forced upon them?

        What about the government now literally forcing them to wear what is ‘acceptable’? That just gets a pass, huh?

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        Lol, lemmyers. Can’t expect rational trains of thought from you, I guess.

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          So it’s okay to support a shit tradition meant to oppress women? Tradition that pushes inferiority of women over men?

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            You mean support people making decisions for themselves instead of having the government do it for them?

            Yeah, it is okay to support that.

            Not sure why you’re advocating suppressing their culture. Did you completely ignore the first question I asked?

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        This is dumb. I grew up going to a mainstream private Jewish school. We had to wear yarmulkes.

        Every child grows up in the guidance of parents, and everyone thinks someone’s lifestyle is abuse. Did you parents feed you meat? Yes? That’s abuse. No? That’s abuse.

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            Funny, children don’t have a choice when they go to public school.

            This means that they should be even more accepting of different cultures than private schools. You’re literally forced to go there if you’re poor.

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            The point was about indoctrination.

            You can’t call a Muslim upbringing indoctrination unless you also call Jewish, Christian, and secular agnostic upbringings indoctrination too. Which might be true, but then you’re just describing parenting.