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annHowe@lemmy.zip to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 6 months ago

Pakistani religious body declares using VPN is against Islamic law

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Pakistani religious body declares using VPN is against Islamic law

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Critics say increased push to control online activities is to curb criticism of the Pakistani military

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    Does the Noble Quran only refer to OpenVPN tunnels or it also covers WireGuard? What if I’m setting my own server on a halal VPS?

    • BMTea@lemmy.world
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      What they actually said is not that VPNs are banned, but using them to access blocked content is. First they mention porn, which is straightforward religiously, but then they also state that accessing blocked “disinformation” is also haram, which is gibberish and has no basis in either religious or secular morals.

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      It depends on where your VPS physically is and the last name of the persons father hosting it.

      • Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip
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        Explain the last name joke?

        • ComradeMiao@lemmy.world
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          In trying to explain my joke I think I found it may not directly apply outside of the Arabic speaking Arab world, but typically last names are important as they say who the person is the son or daughter of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_name?wprov=sfti1#Ism

          It isn’t just a lineage of last names but who your daddy is.

          If I remember correctly from my Arabic class in college some people can have even longer lineage names with multiple peoples included.

          Pakistan seems to be sort of a mix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistani_name?wprov=sfti1#Full_name

          I also found this random paper describing Afghani naming so I wonder if I was wrong. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=e7a649988b7aad015ea8fa972239c7fe9e6ede03

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    🤣 bruv this is a propaganda for the government to crackdown opposition parties. There is no such thing as “Islamic Law against vpn”. They make up things and call it a day

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      No shit.

  • DontNoodles@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Didn’t their prime minister recently use a VPN to congratulate Trump on X, which is blocked from access by the same govt?

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      Elites do not have to follow the rules, that’s the one reason to become an elite in the first place!

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        Game 101

    • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
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      I’m not sure. Are you asking to get an answer?

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        No, I wanted to bring out the irony. Maybe an ‘‽’ would have been better than the ‘?’ I put at the end of my comment.

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    This is plainly insane.

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster has decreed to me that VPN use is totally cool and his worshipers should feel ok using them. 🍝

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      That was my official religion during last census!

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    Lol

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    So boning 8 year olds is cool, but a VPN is a step too far?

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      Boning 8 year olds is tradition. Vpn is new scary tech.

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        Boning 8 year olds is tradition.

        For whom? You?

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          For the entire planet, prior to the last few hundred years. Religion agreed, because pedos are attracted to power and religious leaders were the most powerful.

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      Finally, someone who calls it how it is🙏🗣️🗯️

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      Zionism and Islamophobia always goes hand in hand

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        Are you saying dislike of child molestation is Islamaphobic?

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          Alleging islam encourages child molestation is islamophobia

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            Is it islamophobic to point out that their holy prophet had a bride that is widely believed to have been between six and nine years old when they married, and to have been nine years old when the marriage was consumated?

            I get that isn’t explicitly encouraging it, but I’ve never heard of any context that in any way justifies their prophet having sex with a nine year old (not that any possibly could).

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              The user didn’t point it out that tho. Reaching puberty is the age of consent according to the Quran and Aishas age isn’t a fact like you present it as. Marriage and intercourse are two different things in islam. Idk what you mean by justifying it. It was a societal norm, not only in the arab deserts but the whole world that practised in now what’s called child marriage. This is general knowledge.

              There was no school or any other societal structure that kept kids separate from adult responsibilities back in the day, so comparing the age of consent now vs then( as long as just a century ago) doesn’t make sense. Differentiating a man vs a boy was decided by his mastery of trade he was apprenticed in. A girl and a women, periods.

              You could ask the same question about the bible which set the societal norm of this exact context. Or judaism which goes even futher to state even while things which I don’t want to say cause I don’t want to get banned. Do not say this is whataboutism cause it’s not. The arabian peninsula was indeed heavily influenced by judaism and Christianity before Muhammad was born.

              Edit: forgot to add that it’s not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen.

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                Just FYI most people who calling out Islam are also calling the Catholics for covering child rape too…

                So don’t even try that. You really need to do some thinking about what you are trying to argue why you feel compelled to take this idiotic aplogist position.

                Mohammed was a pedophile, Catholic clergy ar pedophiles… Until religionous people and their corrupt institutions admit this, there is nothing to talk about.

                And online communities will continue to call out this unacceptable positions for what they are…

                Pedophilia apologia

                PS so we are clear… What Israel is going in Gaza is genocide. But being a Muslim doesn’t give anyone a right to justify pedophilia

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                  Can you explain how your ancestors differentiated a girl vs a women with proof. Ancestors from 1000 years ago.

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                One day your Internet search history is going to traumatize a police officer.

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                  ?

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                Edit: forgot to add that it’s not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen.

                This is a bald faced lie.

                https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

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                  It didn’t happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said “extremist groups”.

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            Is it Islamaphobic or is it accurate? Iraq, an Islamic Republic is proposing lowering its age of consent to 9. It’s a move supported for and suggested by its Islamic clergy.

            Maybe you meant to say, “Acknowledging” instead of “Alleging”?

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            Yeah, they have to be 9 years old consenting girls!

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    Typical religion, just making up stupid shit to enforce their control over people.

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    Pass me some apostate-o chips while I log in then!

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    Main use is to hit western porn sites. Just be honest and say being horny is banned.

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    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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      Documenta PDF omnia custodiunt.

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    Wait till they hear about the HA-RAM proxy… For when your memory needs to be available now!

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    They also threw fatwa at Jerry (yes, that cartoon mouse) before, so.

    • Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip
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      Who is “they”

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        Religious nuts

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          This is a government entity thats trying to crackdown against opposition. Nothing to do with religion.

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            It’s “the advisory board of religious affairs.” You think that group of people can’t be religious nuts?

            Also, it’s 100% about religion because their entire excuse is that it runs contrary to religious law. I mean, to your credit, you’re kinda right because this does have nothing to truly do with religion and is about control. But they’re using religion to do it.

            “Using a VPN goes against our religious beliefs?” Come the fuck on.

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              Read the article. The title is click bait. They never claimed using a vpn is against their religion.

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    Let’s use this against yallcada when they try the same.

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