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Glad to see they arent going along with the bullshit of “all russians are evil and deserve to die” that is recently going around. The russian people is under dictator oppression and deserves just as much support as any other people in the same situation.
This is something more people need to understand. Just because Putin is the bad guy doesn’t mean that everyone ethnically or nationally Russian is your enemy.
Hell, with conscription and an estimated death toll of 725,000 on the Russian side, we need to start recognizing this as a profound tragedy for the Russian people. Most of these men don’t know what they’re even fighting for, and a lot of families are going to end up shattered as Putin continues to use these conscripted men as pawns.
Way too many folks out there ready to celebrate the Russian death toll while flinging around ethnic slurs (“orcs”) because they think that they’re somehow sticking it to Putin, the man sending his people to their death.
I remember at the start of the war on practically every reddit thread I looked at were full of Russian people wanting peace and cursing their government. Weird to see people dehumanizing the people who wanted nothing but peace and love.
Anecdotal, I have Russian friends (a couple and their kids).
The dad is really apologetic for his country. He also laments not being able to go back to visit his parents, because his profession would likely be in very high demand by the military so he doesn’t want to risk getting pulled in for service (even though he’s in his 40s).
The mom already went back once, with kids. She says that the population in general, in both Moscow and the countryside, seem really oblivious to what’s going on. There’s a huge disconnect and often even disbelief about what’s going on further west. Likely due to govt media propaganda only running special operations victory headlines. Also those that are able, but down on their luck and fortune, are happy to sign up with the military for (relatively) good pay, especially if their role is not something that makes them fight at the front line directly.
I mean its pretty similar to the US recruiting their poor citizens to fight in the middle east. They are often just as oblivious to the fact that its usually entirely one sided aggression or resource wars.
Glad to see they arent going along with the bullshit of “all russians are evil and deserve to die” that is recently going around. The russian people is under dictator oppression and deserves just as much support as any other people in the same situation.
This is something more people need to understand. Just because Putin is the bad guy doesn’t mean that everyone ethnically or nationally Russian is your enemy.
Hell, with conscription and an estimated death toll of 725,000 on the Russian side, we need to start recognizing this as a profound tragedy for the Russian people. Most of these men don’t know what they’re even fighting for, and a lot of families are going to end up shattered as Putin continues to use these conscripted men as pawns.
Way too many folks out there ready to celebrate the Russian death toll while flinging around ethnic slurs (“orcs”) because they think that they’re somehow sticking it to Putin, the man sending his people to their death.
Yeah the whole orc thing instantly rings dehumanization bells as we know them from Netanyahu and other fascists like Hitler.
I remember at the start of the war on practically every reddit thread I looked at were full of Russian people wanting peace and cursing their government. Weird to see people dehumanizing the people who wanted nothing but peace and love.
Only commenting on the orc part, but that’s what russians call themselves.
Anecdotal, I have Russian friends (a couple and their kids).
The dad is really apologetic for his country. He also laments not being able to go back to visit his parents, because his profession would likely be in very high demand by the military so he doesn’t want to risk getting pulled in for service (even though he’s in his 40s).
The mom already went back once, with kids. She says that the population in general, in both Moscow and the countryside, seem really oblivious to what’s going on. There’s a huge disconnect and often even disbelief about what’s going on further west. Likely due to govt media propaganda only running special operations victory headlines. Also those that are able, but down on their luck and fortune, are happy to sign up with the military for (relatively) good pay, especially if their role is not something that makes them fight at the front line directly.
I mean its pretty similar to the US recruiting their poor citizens to fight in the middle east. They are often just as oblivious to the fact that its usually entirely one sided aggression or resource wars.