• TheEntity@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      Sadly look at email. Technically you can host it yourself but if you’re not one of the 15 or so big providers, good luck not being marked as spam before you even do anything.

      The real problem is with the oligarchy controlling everything, service or protocol. This is why Threads was/is dangerous.

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        16 days ago

        And they’ve been systematically shutting down anonymous email services.

        Load up Brave with a tor connection, and try to sign up for anonymous email. When they can’t track you reliably, even the “anonymous” services require a confirmation email or phone number.

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          16 days ago

          Man I don’t want a future where we doxx ourselves to just be on a PC. Its insane that parents think real ID for gaming is a good idea. Linux might be the only way to escape any of this in the near future.

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            16 days ago

            They pretend it’s to protect us from illegal activity, but it’s really to protect them from whistleblowers.

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              15 days ago

              That’s not entirely true. The push for KYC came because spam started going crazy. You have no clue how bad spam is right now. And believe me, you don’t know. Take the worst case scenario you can think of, and multiply that by 100, and that starts to describe the state of spam emails for the past decade.

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                15 days ago

                Did they suddenly put a stop to email spam, and no one told me? My spam folder says otherwise, but I can confirm the hit to privacy.

                Maybe combating spam was just the excuse?

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                  3 days ago

                  If you get 100 spam emails a day, then without those protections that have been put into place that number would be in the 100s of thousands at best.

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        16 days ago

        Somewhat unfair judgement against emails IMO, especially cause it’s the “trust list” that’s in the control of a few, with no open manner to add more people to the trust list. The protocol isn’t at fault for failing to prevent problems; it’s the ability for corporations to gain significant market share without control, before they are then allowed to put barriers down to disallow or discourage interaction between those in and out, forcing those within to stay in, while those outside to give up on others in order to gain usability.

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          That was my point too, I guess I wasn’t clear enough so thanks for elaborating. The protocol isn’t at fault, but something being a protocol (and not just a proprietary service) isn’t enough if the vast majority of the market share is being held by a few corporations.

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      17 days ago

      Do protocols solve the problem of every hop in between you and the destination has to pass through what amounts to someone else’s private property? Some private servers owned by who knows who on the way between that we have no idea whether they’re inspecting every packet that comes through or not.

      Because that’s the bigger issue, and I’m not even sure it’s one we can solve, because it’s pretty important to how the internet functions.

      A protocol still has to be supported and passed through private corporations walled gardens.

      Who else remembers Comcast illegally using Sandvine to throttle bittorrent traffic specifically? Pepperidge Farm 'members.

      https://torrentfreak.com/comcast-throttles-bittorrent-traffic-seeding-impossible/

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        17 days ago

        That’s what integrity checks are for, so that no one along the path can edit what you say before it actually gets published.