• HATEFISH@midwest.social
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    23 hours ago

    Kind of a strange semantics argument at that point. Saying you can only build with X tools certainly impacts development. Why develop something that would never be allowed to be released?

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      22 hours ago

      That’s the exact argument you’re making: that X tools are the only way to develop a browser. Ignoring the entire world of other devices available.

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        18 hours ago

        If you are only allowed to use internal combustion engines how do you expect to get an electric car?

        If you have no where to sell your product, why develop it?

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          We got electric cars when all we had was the internal combustion engine. What a silly metaphor.

          But it’s nice to hear you admit that I was right, and that the browser could definitely still be developed. The proof, of course, is that there are dozens of web browsers out there in active development.

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            No you just don’t understand the metaphor.

            If electric cars cannot be sold, If for example they were actually illegal, then how do you sell electric cars? If

            If you have to use the Safari engine for everything and the Safari engine doesn’t support a particular feature, then there is no way to use that feature on iOS. You can’t develop a workaround because the work around would require you to have access to arbitrary system commands, and that’s not how web development works.

            For example, there is absolutely no way to implement notifications on iOS without iOS support for web notifications, without that API there is no way to interface with the operating system. There is no way you can build workaround code for that.

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              48 minutes ago

              I can feel the apple-hate radiating from you. It’s made you unreasonable. It only makes sense to you because you identify with the Apple Pay from the other user.

              What you said, of course, is nonsense. And I don’t have to anymore time for nonsense.

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                27 minutes ago

                Are you a twelve year old or something? The comments above that you don’t understand are very simple and clearly not rooted in hating Apple. This weird fanboy thing you’ve got going on is pathetic, grow the fuck up.

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            16 hours ago

            Sorry I wasn’t granular enough for you I figured you’d get the whole thought - if I am not allowed to sell anything but ice cars ( can only use WebKit on the largest group of consumers) what would be the incentive for me to create one unless I can also afford to create a platform or brand to release them on (nobody with the capital to do this is going to make something to the benefit of the users)

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              16 hours ago

              You’ve let your metaphor run away from you. This isn’t even close to the actual situation at hand.

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                15 hours ago

                That maybbe true but feel free toTell me what is then. Developers are less interested in developing for a platform with heavy restrictions. If you have some sort of alternate take on that I’d like some of whatever you are smoking.

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                  14 hours ago

                  It’s not my job to think for you. I already explained this more than once. You have trouble understanding it, have someone else explain it to you.