A crackdown on political dissent is well under way in Germany. Over the past two years, institutions and authorities have cancelled events, exhibitions and awards over statements about Palestine or Israel.

There are many examples: the Frankfurt book fair indefinitely postponing an award ceremony for Adania Shibli; the Heinrich Böll Foundation withdrawing the Hannah Arendt prize from Masha Gessen; the No Other Land directors Basel Adra and Yuval Abraham being defamed by German ministers. And, most recently, the philosopher Omri Boehm being disinvited from speaking at this month’s anniversary of the liberation of Buchenwald.

In nearly all of these cases, accusations of antisemitism loom large – even though Jews are often among those being targeted. More often than not, it is liberals driving or tacitly accepting these cancellations, while conservatives and the far right lean back and cheer them on.

Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.

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    The cancellation of the demos and deportation are in fact based on law, Its the same article that prohibites the Hitler salute. Even oure foregin minister is allowed to critisie israel, but to say that it has no right to exist is banned.

    And new immigrants only get accepted if they’re willing to say that Israel has a right to exist.

    I just hate these articles about chaotic situations in Germany especially if compared to the current US situation

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      When supporting the existence of an explicit ethnonationalist state is mandated by law, maybe the law is wrong.

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          tell you what, where do you live? i think i should have the right to build a state right there and you’d be a hateful bigot if you had a problem with it.

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          It is antisemitic to denounce Israels right to exist.

          It’s not “antisemitic” to say a country that only exists because Zionists in the British government convinced others to partition the ottoman empire and specifically create that country “as a national home for the Jewish people” (weird, sounds ethno statey, but don’t worry, they totally promised not to infringe on the rights of the natives) has no right to exist

          Like you are an absolute fucking pig shit for brain moron if you think it’s “antisemitic”

          Iirc it’s literally even against the fucking Jewish religion for them to return to Israel before their whatever messianic figure appears. Israel itself is antisemitic! (To say nothing of the fact that Palestinians are a semitic people, but i guess Israeli fascists pushing them into the sea is fine)

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          So, just to make it clear, your only issue with what the US is doing is that they didn’t file the correct paperwork first?

          Or is it that they weren’t required to swear fealty to Israel before entering?

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          they have the same right to build a state as the Palestinians have

          Lol, try telling Israel or Germany that Palestinians have a right to a state, you Nazi bitch.

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          Person A: “I think the actions of the Netanyahu government are reprehensible and amount to ethnic cleansing. I think a government like that shouldn’t exist.”

          Person B: “You can’t criticize the Zionist entity, that’s literally anti-Semitism”

          Person A: “Well, this is a line in the sand for me that I can’t cross. So it’s all Jews then?”

          Aren’t you at all concerned that you might create more anti-Semitism when you say that? It’s bad enough as it is — don’t give people legitimate reasons to turn into Nazis.

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      hey how does it feel being fascist and apparently unaware

      “How could the holocaust happen” it’s lanyard wearing nerds like you going um akshually, this is legal

      Um akshually sir the fuhrer made it legal so get in the pit. this is good.

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          The cancellation of the demos and deportation are in fact based on law, Its the same article that prohibites the Hitler salute. Even oure foregin minister is allowed to critisie israel, but to say that it has no right to exist is banned.

          and new immigrants only get accepted if they’re willing to say that Israel has a right to exist.

          I just hate these articles about chaotic situations in Germany especially if compared to the current US situation

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              I semi disagee with mods removing these type of comments. Especially when they go negative in score.

              One thing which threw me off early when having debates with Zionists online is their arguments being so incredibly bad that I did not expect anyone to make them. It’s like they’re arguing from an alternate universe.

              There are so many ways to debunk their "arguments’ that my brain short-circuits and needs to think which one to pick. Getting used to it does help. And people who visit .world for a dose of Hasbara slop might actually believe this nonsense if they have never been exposed to the counter arguments.

              It’s like there’s an entire different side of the story people have never been told; the fake Hasbara universe where everything is made up and lies are patched with more lies.

              • I think it’s understandable to remove them in the desire to not allow that kind of discussion in a given place, like this instance.

                As a general user, it’s just difficult to parse through afterwards, I feel like an historian trying to piece together an ancient argument with only one side of it. I feel like leaving them up a bit longer until the argument is dead is good, but only because I like to read through it as content or jump in at times. Taking the comments down immediately kills it. I usually check the modlog and piece it together but in this case something was missing for some reason.

                In terms of moderation, and I’ve never been a mod, I think the current way of doing things is best though.

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      Very very very odd law, is it not? Right to exist?? What does that even mean and why would a government force you to subscribe to it?

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        I don’t understand why they exist, I hear nothing about an outrage or something about this. Today is in the biggest news an articke about the Buchenwald situation, stating Israels influences on thus controversy