So you’re saying communists aren’t Marxists? They’re just folk who are in a weird cult of personality and love China and Russia including the capitalist elements of it? For someone from lemmygrad, I’m quite surprised…
No, I’m all for workers gaining their fair share of the proceeds of their wealth. I just don’t believe you need to nosh off dictators because you’re keen on the writings of Marx. Stalin != Marx.
There is very little virtue or moral high-ground in celebrating those who are guilty of atrocities.
In what argument do you have that Stalin was not simply moving forward and carrying into reality Marx’s theories. All of Stalin’s writings indicate a deep understanding and usage of dialects and his actions reflect Marx’s writings fully as well when it comes to the socialist. And Engel’s writings are clear from what he wrote in Anti-Durhing
“Tankies” are just those with a view based in reality and not ethereal ideas of “rights for me but not for thee”
You misunderstand my point.
Communists who believe in sharing the wealth amongst the workers, fair enough.
People who will obsess about Stalin and China, and justify atrocities, not so good.
When I say tankies, I do not mean communists.
So you are against communists
So you’re saying communists aren’t Marxists? They’re just folk who are in a weird cult of personality and love China and Russia including the capitalist elements of it? For someone from lemmygrad, I’m quite surprised…
If you are against “tankies” then you are agaisnt communists
No, I’m all for workers gaining their fair share of the proceeds of their wealth. I just don’t believe you need to nosh off dictators because you’re keen on the writings of Marx. Stalin != Marx.
There is very little virtue or moral high-ground in celebrating those who are guilty of atrocities.
In what argument do you have that Stalin was not simply moving forward and carrying into reality Marx’s theories. All of Stalin’s writings indicate a deep understanding and usage of dialects and his actions reflect Marx’s writings fully as well when it comes to the socialist. And Engel’s writings are clear from what he wrote in Anti-Durhing
Did the Gulag exist, and how do you feel that sits in with human decency and furthering the rights of workers?
He might write a lot, but we know politicians say a lot. What actions were taken and what happened under his watch is another thing entirely.
His decision to get Trotsky killed off, was that furthering the cause of workers?
Gulags were where criminals were. Are we to let them run around society?
Fair enough but his actions do reflect what he wrtoe
Trotsky was also working agaisnt the USSR and needed taken down as he was an enemy of working class liberation.