I think the important thing is consent to use data. If I can control what data I share with them, it isn’t the end of the world. If I choose to not, and it’s honoured, then this is a good thing. I’d prefer this approach funding development to Mozilla not being able to compete.

Mozilla is a far superior company to Google.

Which they could also report on. The fact they’re removing a standard metric they’ve relied on, rather than relegate it, shows they have fear this metric is going to be detrimental to publish. You can fairly safely assume it’s going to go down. It’s no longer sexy, tik tok is killing it, and most that would be on it, are, and are discovering it’s not greatly beneficial to them and spending less time on it. It is the start of the decline. How long and how fast is the thing we do not know.

Probably just process. They’ll send an updated fob off letter. Right wing gov that represents business, not people.

When they offer you a 3% uplift, rather than 2% with inflation running higher.

Then find another company and negotiate a salary you should be on. Maybe add on a bit more so that can negotiate you down to what you want. Ignore the question of how much you are on as much as possible. Answer with “I am looking for £x”.

I mean moderation doesn’t neccesarily support that. You can be tolerant but remove stuff that is far in the fringes. Lemmy has quite a mix. World hates left wing, ml is left wing. Ee is pretty open.

Petty criminals in some cases. Potentially some who were starving and stole to eat. Do societies run in the interests of working people punish those people for struggling or focus on rehabilitation where it is possible? Push them into force work camps where a very significant number die. Is trying to eat a death penalty now?

Stalin ain’t that saint you think he was.

Was Trotsky working against the USSR? He was actively involved under Lenin, but when Stalin wanted to grasp power, he became a problem. Do you think Lenin was wrong and Stalin was right?

It feels very much like you’re in a Stalin shaped cult of personality, which is ultimately was what his rule of the USSR was, not some glory day communist rule poster child. If you really want to persuade people that communism is better. Evangelising a dictator isn’t going to help the case of furthering Marxist philosophy.

Did the Gulag exist, and how do you feel that sits in with human decency and furthering the rights of workers?

He might write a lot, but we know politicians say a lot. What actions were taken and what happened under his watch is another thing entirely.

His decision to get Trotsky killed off, was that furthering the cause of workers?

No, I’m all for workers gaining their fair share of the proceeds of their wealth. I just don’t believe you need to nosh off dictators because you’re keen on the writings of Marx. Stalin != Marx.

There is very little virtue or moral high-ground in celebrating those who are guilty of atrocities.

So you’re saying communists aren’t Marxists? They’re just folk who are in a weird cult of personality and love China and Russia including the capitalist elements of it? For someone from lemmygrad, I’m quite surprised…

There wasn’t any really in that thread. You brought it up.

I’m sure you’ll warn OP, and another OP, and another OP, and another OP, and after getting any response, blame Firefox fanboys for beaing unbearable…

You misunderstand my point.

Communists who believe in sharing the wealth amongst the workers, fair enough.

People who will obsess about Stalin and China, and justify atrocities, not so good.

When I say tankies, I do not mean communists.

Out of a quick glance (really quick), I found this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/2915403

It seems you’re throwing rocks and getting surprised when people generally respond. You cannot complain about fanboyism when you’re trying to start fires. If you don’t want those conversations, maybe don’t start 'em.

I get that when you bash Firefox on reddit, you can start a circlejerk, but you don’t get the same response here and it’s as much to do with you being used to the biases of reddit.

I quite agree with you. I think tankies are quite misguided. They have good intentions, but not so great conclusions. I don’t mind engaging with them, and they mostly tend to be in good faith.

I wouldn’t describe it as toxic, and it’s weird some views in that regards. Many are probably engaging with people that just quit engaging in reddit.

There is quite a bit of bias on reddit that makes it quite uncomfortable for some of those people. Quite often Linux, Firefox and great open source software is bashed. It can be quite disconcerting to be in a different environment, but it isn’t solely because of the views and biases of those on Lemmy. It’s also significantly down to the views and biases of those one reddit also.

A lot of open source advocates do tend to be inclined to open source software on an open source link aggregator.

Signed, Open Source entusiast. :)

Oof, I can imagine that sucks. Come join us on [email protected] :) Everyone seems quite enthusiastic about finding alternatives. I’m all about the Firefox, GrapheneOS, Proton Mail, Signal, Element etc. :)

One thing I’ve noticed about the alternatives subreddit, is there is a lot of people persuading people against alternatives. It’s almost like there was some organising to persuade people there was no alternative.

I mean, when you factor in you’d probably get removed, or shadow-banned, or have your posts removed for mentioning Lemmy, it feels like there is a multifaceted approach to discouraging folk from leaving the reddit teet.

While there is an element of truth, it’s scattered in with exaggeration and only focussing on negatives. The objective was to say Lemmy bad, staying good.

No way is Lemmy more toxic than reddit. I find those “well ackshually” folks are much less here.

Fair points. I appreciate the response.

Isn’t that assuming you pipe it out using metal. Would plastic or carbon fibre be viable for this? Or at least coating a metal pipe?