• nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Well that’s the UN’s fault for wording ethnic cleansing as a form of genocide, which in reality it can be a part of.

    But in the real world it’s just liars first lobbying to broaden a written definition to later abuse it.

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      1 year ago

      What language would you use to describe removing an ethnicity from an area, so that it may be ethnically pure for a different ethnicity?

      Ethnic purification?

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            I suggest not copying Israel’s stupid definitions for anything

            Genocide: murdering everyone of a certain ethnicity

            Ethnic cleansing: removing everyone of a certain ethnicity from an area

            Of course both can go hand in hand. Threatening murder, often by setting some prolific examples, is a way to convince people to leave.

            There’s a difference between WW2 nazi’s checking the Spanish border making sure jews trying to escape are sent back to the extermination camps, and zionist settlers cutting down orchards and shooting a few farmers to scare them off.

            What’s happening in the West Bank is extremely deplorable but it’s no different from what’s happening in, for example, Western Sahara or Nagorno Kharabag

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              Wikipedia Wikipedia 2 UN Human rights watch Wiktionary

              I’m sorry you have a fight with the English language, but this term is well defined. It is defined in a legal sense, by both people who have suffered from genocide, and people who want to prevent genocide. Including the government of Israel which is committing a genocide, by their own definition, against the people of Palestine.

              If you want to argue that English should be different, Wikipedia talks, and wikitionary talk pages are good places to do it. You could also reach out to your local State department, and petition them to get the definition of genocide changed.

              We here on Lemmy cannot resolve your dispute with the English language, sorry

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                I already know people like to broaden the term (and ignore the - cide) to serve their own needs. But alas, I’m here to educate, not follow.

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              Genocide: murdering everyone of a certain ethnicity

              Nope, “Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people in whole or in part”, which is the case with Israel.

              Ethnic cleansing: removing everyone of a certain ethnicity from an area

              Nope, nothing says you have to displace everyone, just that you attempt it and have shown on numerous occasions that you intend to do it (which is the case with Israel)

              You can say whatever you want, but making up new definitions (or maybe “oversimplified” definitions) of a thing is not a good way to have a discussion.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1 year ago

        No need for the ableist slur. There are much better, creative, and entertaining ways to insult people who act in bad faith and have the self-awareness of a modern LLM.

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      1 year ago

      Go apply to the UN. They have some vacancies now that Israel bombed so many UN workers in their home. I’m sure they will appreciate all your thoughtful commentary!