• DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Yeah I’m going to have to agree. I’m an alcoholic myself and this is a problematic way of living with it. Moderation seldom works for alcoholics as it is and by putting your choice to drink on someone else’s offerings seems to just be a way to escape any blame should it end in full relapse.

    Everybody’s journey is different though so I’m not going to judge. But at no point was I able to stop drinking until I straight stopped drinking. As they say “one drink is too much and a hundred isn’t enough.”

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      11 months ago

      You may be surprised at the spectrum of human experience. Among those for whom drinking becomes a problem at some point in their life, a substantial majority are actually able to moderate or regulate their drinking, either on their own or with limited support. There are a subset of problem drinkers who absolutely cannot do this though, and those for whom a single drink can send them spiralling.

      I’m not saying what that other guy is doing is smart, but like you said, everybody’s journey is different

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        11 months ago

        Problem drinking and alcoholism aren’t the same though. 9 out of 10 excessive drinkers aren’t alcohol dependent. So yeah, while many people who at some point have a problem with drinking can learn to moderate without future issues, I don’t know if most of them would fall into the alcohol dependency category.

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          11 months ago

          That’s kind of the issue though. There is no distinction in the eyes of the public, many in the medical field, and even those in recovery themselves.

          According to one of the questionnaires about being an alcoholic I saw in college. Every single college student was an alcoholic if they ever took a drink.

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        11 months ago

        Therapy doesn’t stop an addiction. Cessation does.

        You’ve already admitted you can’t control your drinking and have to rely on other people and random chance to do it for you.

        You do you though.

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                11 months ago

                For sure, I had a friend that kept complaining about not having a cent, having to work overtime and not managing to fix problems he had (like his house needing work done in order to sell it) but the truth was he was spending his money on booze and wherever he had free time he could have spent getting his things in order, he would be drunk because that was the only time he had to satisfy his addiction…

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            11 months ago

            Your “therapy” is SMART meetings? Remember when they had to shut down their 24/7 chat because of sexual predators?

            But yeah, I know nothing about that, according to you. Also, I’m somehow religious because I think a self admitted alcoholic shouldn’t drink?

            There’s also secular aa meetings where people openly bash religion, but what do I know, I am super religious after all /s

            Have fun buddy.