Elon Musk’s Vegas Loop project racks up serious safety violations — Workers describe routine chemical burns, permanent scarring to limbs, and violations that call into question claims of innovative…::The Boring Company’s tiny Las Vegas Loop is all that’s come of Musk’s promises to build superfast mass-transit “hyperloops.” Workers say its tunnels are packed with chemical sludge.

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    8 months ago

    It’s just a tunnel with human-driven Tesla cars in it. How do they even manage to fuck it up that bad?

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      Tunnels need to be large so they can have safety features like emergency walkways and air conducts. Musk’s tunnel is just large enough to contain a car, because every inch of diameter costs an enormous amount of money.

      Before this project Musk boasted that his Boring company can do tunnels much cheaper than traditional companies, this tunnel showed how.

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    How someone is calling this innovation is beyond me.

    And transporting people in individual cars is the least efficient use of a tunnel. Even his original idea sucked, where a car is placed over a platform.

    https://piped.video/watch?v=5WAez2n2lSU - that’s what I call innovation.

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      It’s the most Los Angeles solution to a problem I’ve ever seen. Meanwhile London has had its underground trains since 1863.

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      Carbrains keep reinventing the wheel with individual cars, the hyperloop stans also like to hype their innovative idea of automating cars to link together on highways to “streamline traffic and achieve better speed”

      Don’t you dare call it a train, they will fucking melt down on you.

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      that’s what I call innovation

      Well, yeah, but both maglev and vacuum are high maintenance. Doing both seems like asking for constant downtime due to failures.

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    Why can’t they use all the shit they’ve learned from hyperloop, and use it to make cheaper metro/subway transit? Like oh, you created a faster and more efficient tunneling/ bore machine? Great, lease it out so these other cities can have better mass transit and more walkable cities please?

    Do this and I won’t hate you as much Elon. But you won’t because you’re a greedy cunt and only want to use hyperloop hype to sell more Teslas.

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      The “hyperloop” ignored centuries of lessons from making metro/subway transit lines and is suffering for it.

      Single loop, single track operation so you have no tolerance for an individual vehicle having problems or delays. 2-3 passenger vehicles, each with a driver, instead of gaining throughput by putting more passengers per vehicle. To try and make up for the first two, incredibly time sensitive load/unload operations, which mean you have to ‘train’ passengers and load them and their luggage in <30s/person or the entire system suffers. High wear on the vehicles because it’s rubber on ‘rock’ instead of metal on metal.

      More operating vehicles, all of which are only constructed to consumer standards, operating in harsher conditions than they were built for, for longer than they were meant to run without maintenance, leads to more breakdowns faster. Any breakdown trashes how the whole system works, because it’s a single track operation.

      The Victorians literally built better subways using horses and vacuum systems.

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      Bluntly, nothing new was learned from any of hyperloops endevors, the fast boring was done by using smaller machines, which the company did not develop. Maybe we confirmed our knowledge of air resistance

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      We already knew how to make metro and transit. Hyperloop taught us nothing except that we shouldn’t trust billionaires

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      I don’t think they learned anything new. They just bought some tunnel boring machines and made some tunnels

      Also I think the tunnels are for cars