So it’s OK to bomb and burn a hospital just because you think there’s weapons and hostages in there? That’s some Russia type logic if i ever heard it. I wonder what side you were on while Russia bombed Ukrainian hospitals.
IDF also dressed up as doctors and nurses during one raid. Most moral army in the world, folks.
Sounds more like the Israelis to me.
Anyone else remember that time when he said that he won’t be sending 1 little ammo crate to israel to try and save face?
the only one acting like terrorists are USA and israel.
I’m sure there’s no controversies and criticism section for your favorite media outlet :)
glad i got off of windows 10 before windows got worse. now i’m just sitting here laughing but also disappointed that people have to put up with let alone use this shit because it’s the mainstream os
consistent one-sided reporting
Remember the statements the IDF and Israeli media put out when the Al-Ahli hospital was bombed? first they said it was a Hamas rocket, and after that was debunked they say that the hospital was a Hamas base/bunker, without providing any evidence.
Sure sounds like propaganda, conspiracy theories and one-sided reporting to me.
looks like Israel’s following Russia’s footsteps, and USA probably won’t bat an eye.
history class must suck in israel if they’re saying shit like this lmao
USA sends on average 3.8 billion a year in aid to Israel. Israel also has a lobbying system in the US to skew public opinion in favor of Israel (the most prominent groups are CUFI and AIPAC), where in certain divisions, Mossad bots spew Israeli propaganda on fake accounts (much like the Kremlin bots).
The government always touts Israel as “our best ally”. Not to mention that USA always has unequivocal support to Israel, even if they might criticise them for a couple things. Funny how they support the oppressed while also supporting the aggressor.
It’s too complicated for me lol.
One side that’s literally bombing hospitals and media towers, storming into mosques and hospitals to throw tear gas at people, and invading people’s home so they can either do a “search” where they leave the house in disarray, or wake up all the family members at 12am to photograph them using an app called BlueWolf (it basically puts the Palestinians into a database where IDF/Police can scrutinise them), and assassinate random people on the street, as well as the dozens of cameras and microphones on surveillance poles, watch towers, and illegally installed on some people’s roofs for good measure. They also killed a journalist (Shireen Abu Akleh), and the Israeli propaganda machine instantly went into overdrive, trying to say that it was Hamas, but was quickly debunked. (he war criminals didn’t get shit because it’s Israel).
A whole army that’s designed to intimidate and dehumanise another group, with the ideology that the Palestinians are sub-humans/terrorists, which is propagated by Israeli media, which Russia is now using that formula in their propaganda to report on the war in Ukraine, yeah that definitely sounds “complicated”.
One of the factors in making your view on Ukraine different is that Russia doesn’t have a lobbying system like Israel does. Israel has a huge lobbying system (mostly in the USA but there’s also ones in Canada) where they basically spew out Israeli propaganda and control the media to influence public opinion to have a positive view on Israel. They even have war rooms where Mossad bots on fake accounts endlessly spew Israeli talking points, much like the Kremlin bots. Russia wishes they could have a lobbying system like that.
To see the propaganda for yourself, just compare when Israel gets striked by Hamas rockets and the media (especially Israeli media) is blaring the red alarm, to Russian media reporting on Ukrainian drone strikes in Russia. You’ll find out that they basically use the same format. Over-exaggerate the bad guys, call everyone who’s in that country a catch-all term, and have the country who’s attacked seem like they have done absolutely nothing wrong to deserve this, they’re always a victim.
I do support the Ukrainian people. Just putting that out there. I think both the invasion of Ukraine and occupation of Palestine is illegal. Are there shades of gray? There are, but only focusing on that stuff distracts you from the bigger picture.
Having double standards like this isn’t okay. You say you’re all for justice but then one conflict comes up where it couldn’t be any clearer on who the aggressor is, but because of Israeli propaganda influencing the media, it’s just too complicated to wrap your head around.
If you take a look at Israeli and Russian media, you’ll find out that they pretty use the same methods of propaganda (and sure some things are different, but the general census is the same).
Dehumanizing the enemy, and lumping all of its people together, meanwhile trying to justify their actions with the victim approach. “oh please help i’m getting attacked, i have done nothing wrong, those guys over there are terrorists/nazis, we’re only liberating it from the horrible terrorists/nazis who keep bombing this place! we’re doing this for peace!”
Also, why do you think the “terrorists” are doing this? Surely it wouldn’t be because of the illegal occupation of Palestine that Israel has been doing since 1948, with the Nakba (where various militant groups such as Irgun and Lehi did a massacre on Palestinian people, the looting of Palestinian homes, and evasion tactics such as planting trees to hide the fact that this was once Palestinian land being a huge part of it). IDF also play a major role in the occupation, as they very much want their presence known.
IDF raid houses for the purpose of taking picture of all the family members in the house to use as data for BlueWolf (which is basically a profile of Palestinians so that Israel’s surveillance cameras can easily recognize their faces). They can also do a “house search” where they knock everything over and then come up empty-handed because they don’t know what they’re searching for. They can also use the house that they just raided as a sort of military base.
Their most recent crime is the killing of a journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh. They then lied through their teeth while Israeli bots posted misinformation say that “the terrorists fired on her”, which was quickly debunked. They call that a “PR blitz”. Also, for them, bombing hospitals (such as the al-Shifa hospital), schools, media towers (Al-Jalaa building being one example), apartment buildings (such as Hamadi tower), and if that isn’t enough, the al-Shati refugee camp is known as “mowing the lawn”.
So of course the Palestinians have every right to fight back, just like the Ukrainians do. I don’t agree with every method (just as i don’t agree with every method the Ukrainians use),. That being said, they are being occupied by a country who’s raiding and demolishing homes, doing random assassinations, and to top it all off, throwing tear gas into mosques and hospitals because that’s what the most moral army in the world does. No surprise that they fight back. They aren’t just going to surrender their land to the occupiers.
Yet you guys freak out when this argument is used on Ukraine. Both are bullshit arguments btw.
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This being said, have you tried doing what I said? Answer me clearly. Go to Red Square, protest against the occupation of Ukraine.
Well in Russia’s case, they just arrest everyone and put them in jail for 5-15 years and make up laws saying that you can’t criticise the army/government or protest. So people stop protesting because they don’t want to go to the shithole that is Russian jail, or even worse like in one case with a schoolgirl doing a non-approved drawing, the father being subject to CIA torture methods (i recall one of them he had the russian anthem blasted at him at ear-damaging volume, which is what the CIA done in Guantanamo bay).
Also, the elections are rigged in Russia (just so you know that information).
Going with your example here, try to highlight Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine, and how there’s lobbies for Israel that are basically worldwide (it’s most prevalent in USA, AIPAC and CUFI being the big 2) spreading Pro-Israel propaganda. Israel’s propaganda machine also has bot farms (called war rooms) distributing propaganda just like the Kremlin bots.
Try pointing all of that out, then see what happens then in the very country that touts its freedom of speech. (Hint: You get put on a list and you’re smeared so bad your job is in jeopardy).
I suggest you read up on this, it’s interesting. Here’s a link for some reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States
Generally, pointing something out that a state doesn’t want to be pointed out will involve the state cracking down on you, it’s just state policy. Shouldn’t be but it is. I support all dissidence.
yeah i wonder as well. always a russian missile until people take a look at it and it’s radio silence from there lol.
funny how russia always gets clowned on for their false flags (they’re laughably bad anyways) but when ukraine does it (and a decent job at one too) the ukraine supporters always do whataboutism.
always at strangely convenient times too.
i’m all for support for ukraine (it’s people anyways). going to the equivalent of a vatnik doesn’t help anyone.
i wonder why we’re an ally with that hellhole of a state anyways. we should cut ties and sanction them (and should have done a long time ago).
i can get the reason why someone would believe the whole cover up thing, and to some point i can agree (after all it’s the first thing people go to when you mention the more concerning aspects of azov battalion, and just getting that same response over and over is quite annoying, they’re like broken records lol).
just funny that another jew’s saying it, that’s all.
I always knew Israel were crazy, but they’ve been speedrunning Russia levels of brainrot ever since Oct 7 (and even before that). Their propaganda just gets more schizo by the hour, it’s absolutely nuts.