It really pissed me off how people don’t seem to realise that most crime is due to a failure of society and that if we give people prospects then crime will go down.
And in so doing, they have a criminal record that makes it harder to get jobs, leading to a vicious cycle where they’re not employed due to a criminal record/recent imprisonment, and are forced to steal to survive, leading to another criminal record, etc.
Edit: Also, you do realise that a poorer country relative a another still has its own subset of poor people and wealthy people. It’s not like a poor country is only poor people. Inequality is everywhere.
There is no world crime per se. International crimes tend to be people trafficking and things more serious.
The crimes this thread is discussing are more related to crimes of necessity.
I must say I do like all your rejections of my argument without providing an argument yourself. Due to the one sided nature if this I’d prefer not to converse any longer.
“Jimmy’s biggest personal failure was not being able to take advantage of generational wealth. His second biggest personal failure was choosing to steal food for himself, his wife, and kids, instead of choosing to die and let his family risk dying from starvation. His third biggest personal failure was having kids in the first place.”
Idk, it has a bit of a hollow ring to it. What do you think?
As someone who works in a grocery store, most of the people I see stealing are stealing stuff like makeup or drinks and junk food, not necessities. And our regular thieves spend hundreds on cigarettes a week, while still stealing whatever they want because they know they’ll get away with it.
Yeah, the cigarettes thing is a literal drug issue. The only thing that’s different between that a fentanyl is the smokes are not criminalized.
We can’t expect our thieves and impoverished to be exactly rational and raid the staples, especially as we’ve engineered junk food to appeal to impulsivity.
As for makeup I don’t have an easy explanation, though makeup is expensive and currently we do expect people to wear it rather than get accustomed to what folks look like without it. I was going to guess it’s fungible, but less so than brand-name laundry detergent. Tide is currency in the underground market.
But yes, while for young people there might be a thrill in the act of stealing over buying, ultimately, when we have the capacity to fulfill our needs without careful budgeting and compromise, we’re glad to do things transactionally. Professional thieves struggle to make rent.
Later, Uber would be sued for not actually providing the tombstones and for over-charging for them when they were provided.
They would counter that they had contracted a third party, X, to provide the tombstones, on behalf of the deceased, and had merely paid the invoices on the deceaseds’ behalfs, and that X, not Uber, would be liable for any failure to provide said tombstones or to have over-billed for them.
Years later, Uber would “lose” the case and would be ordered to send $3.50 to anyone who had sent them payments for tombstones between the years of 2024 and 2026, and $43.8 million to the attorneys on the case. They would also be required to set up a free tombstone check account for anyone who requested one in lieu of that payment, but they would only give 30 days to claim the account and would send it with a spammy sounding title like “Claim your free account now!” ensuring that only 4% of the eligible people actually managed to claim one.
Overall Uber will have made $418 million profit from their burial and tombstone billing service.
My (unpopular?) solution is to make sure the rest of society isn’t so desperate for food that they’re willing to rob a robot.
In an unrelated suggestion, if youre in a grocery store and see someone stealing food, no you didn’t.
It really pissed me off how people don’t seem to realise that most crime is due to a failure of society and that if we give people prospects then crime will go down.
Preach. Harsh penalties with no rehabilitation and an uncaring system with no safety net?
If you can’t get a job and can’t eat without a job, who wouldn’t do crime?
And in so doing, they have a criminal record that makes it harder to get jobs, leading to a vicious cycle where they’re not employed due to a criminal record/recent imprisonment, and are forced to steal to survive, leading to another criminal record, etc.
No, most crime is due to a personal failure. Play stupid games - win stupid prizes.
Care to explain why crime is more prevalent amongst poorer people?
Or do you just want to be hyperbolic with your comments?
Which poorest people? Poor countries are not criminal outposts. That’s a myth that wealth correlates with crime.
London
study from 2011
Edit: Also, you do realise that a poorer country relative a another still has its own subset of poor people and wealthy people. It’s not like a poor country is only poor people. Inequality is everywhere.
These studies are irrelevant as they don’t cover crime worldwide. They are just taking bull crap out of their ass.
You could do the same for each country.
There is no world crime per se. International crimes tend to be people trafficking and things more serious.
The crimes this thread is discussing are more related to crimes of necessity.
I must say I do like all your rejections of my argument without providing an argument yourself. Due to the one sided nature if this I’d prefer not to converse any longer.
Have a great day all the same buddy.
“Jimmy’s biggest personal failure was not being able to take advantage of generational wealth. His second biggest personal failure was choosing to steal food for himself, his wife, and kids, instead of choosing to die and let his family risk dying from starvation. His third biggest personal failure was having kids in the first place.”
Idk, it has a bit of a hollow ring to it. What do you think?
As someone who works in a grocery store, most of the people I see stealing are stealing stuff like makeup or drinks and junk food, not necessities. And our regular thieves spend hundreds on cigarettes a week, while still stealing whatever they want because they know they’ll get away with it.
If you think about it’s easier to steal higher value items that have a good resale value, rather than a complete food shop.
Sure, some people steal out of more than necessity, whether that be drug addiction (which should also be fixed at the root) or other issues.
The fact is quite simple that the more we give people prospects then the more crime will go down.
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Yeah, the cigarettes thing is a literal drug issue. The only thing that’s different between that a fentanyl is the smokes are not criminalized.
We can’t expect our thieves and impoverished to be exactly rational and raid the staples, especially as we’ve engineered junk food to appeal to impulsivity.
As for makeup I don’t have an easy explanation, though makeup is expensive and currently we do expect people to wear it rather than get accustomed to what folks look like without it. I was going to guess it’s fungible, but less so than brand-name laundry detergent. Tide is currency in the underground market.
But yes, while for young people there might be a thrill in the act of stealing over buying, ultimately, when we have the capacity to fulfill our needs without careful budgeting and compromise, we’re glad to do things transactionally. Professional thieves struggle to make rent.
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They should sue the families for lost robot productivity too
Later, Uber would be sued for not actually providing the tombstones and for over-charging for them when they were provided.
They would counter that they had contracted a third party, X, to provide the tombstones, on behalf of the deceased, and had merely paid the invoices on the deceaseds’ behalfs, and that X, not Uber, would be liable for any failure to provide said tombstones or to have over-billed for them.
Years later, Uber would “lose” the case and would be ordered to send $3.50 to anyone who had sent them payments for tombstones between the years of 2024 and 2026, and $43.8 million to the attorneys on the case. They would also be required to set up a free tombstone check account for anyone who requested one in lieu of that payment, but they would only give 30 days to claim the account and would send it with a spammy sounding title like “Claim your free account now!” ensuring that only 4% of the eligible people actually managed to claim one.
Overall Uber will have made $418 million profit from their burial and tombstone billing service.
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If I still work in retail I would require far more money to notice things. Since my wage wasn’t tied to company profits what do I care.
Although I do remember a time that somebody stole all the skittles. We got yelled at about that one.
I don’t think that’s at all unpopular, don’t a lot of beauty pageant women say how they want to end world hunger or poverty