• TheFriar@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    What’s the ignorance? I think worrying about how we are going to curb these pretty consequential problems this technology in the hands of these particular companies brings is….pretty valid.

    Also, did you say burning up the planet even faster, stealing and profiting off of people’s livelihood, and…fucking making nonconsensual porn of underage girls are “zero” problems? The fuck?

    Not to mention…the worsening of class inequality? Do you just no see these as problems? Or…what exactly is the argument here.

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      4 months ago

      What’s the ignorance?

      The person was calling for a ban on advancing this technology

      Also, did you say burning up the planet even faster, stealing and profiting off of people’s livelihood, and…fucking making nonconsensual porn of underage girls are “zero” problems? The fuck?

      Let’s conduct an intelligence test, one I am sure a LLM could pass. What did I actually say? Let me know if you need help.

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        4 months ago

        I always know when someone doesn’t have a good argument when they give me a dozen bad ones. 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 … Still equals 0. No matter how many times you do it.

        This. This is what you actually said. Directly after quoting exactly what I said. There’s…no other way to read that. You’re calling them non-problems that pale in comparison to the unabated advancement of capitalist expansion.

        These tools, in the right hands, could be very useful. They could free us from work in the future.

        But they’re not in the right hands. They’re in the hands of capitalists.

        Whether those are Russian capitalists, US-based capitalists, Chinese capitalists, the aim is the same. Having these people own this tech isn’t good for humanity. As evidenced by the problems I listed; not only is it underage, nonconsensual porn made of real-ass people that you wrote off by saying some shit like, “it’s at best in poor taste and at worst harassment”…these are people’s fucking lives you’re talking about. So, you’re clearly a man, probably a white man. Because no one else would be so flippant about something that can so fucking devastate the lives of those affected.

        But not only is that a problem we aren’t even trying to solve in the name of being “pro-business,” the biggest problem that somehow even manages to rank above kids killing themselves after their still-forming brains are fucking shattered by devastation, is what this does to the ongoing class war. Someone else ITT likened it to the invention of the nuke. And that’s true. But they said, in the geopolitical race it’s akin to the invention of the nuke, whereas I see it as nuke in the class war. And the ownership class is getting closer to holding it in their hands. But since it’s good for the economy and the politicians are on the side of the ownership class anyway, this problem isn’t even broached in this discussion. But it badly needs to be.

        In a time of near unprecedented inequality, we are watching them hit the accelerator. Which is an apt comparison, because this tech is also hastening our head-on collision with climate apocalypse. While developing nations are being told to curb emissions, we in the superpower states are increasing our co2 output with this stupid tech. And you said some shit about nuclear and renewables and fuckin carbon taxes? Well, sure, those are hypothetical bandaids on this festering wound, but they’re just that. The acceleration of LLM/“AI” energy consumption while we break heat and natural disaster record after heat and natural disaster record—as that fucking climate apocalypse cliff edge approaches faster and faster is just…utter lunacy. And this alone should give us reason enough to change course. But that’s not the only reason.

        So, yeah, I vehemently disagree with your characterization of these problems as “0+0+0” when it comes to the argument against AI.

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            4 months ago

            “You’re gonna make an argument against my stupid position?! But I don’t wanna read four paragraphs!”

            The mark of a truly confident, well-intentioned debater. Won’t take three minutes. To read…four paragraphs. mwah love it

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              4 months ago

              Yeah yeah I suck go ask Lemmy for your money back. Maybe you can via fax or whatever boomer shit you insist on using.

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                    4 months ago

                    lol yeah because that “what” was because I didn’t understand your super deep shit. You always get so worked up over someone suggesting capitalism isn’t the best? Some real bootlicker shit, that