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    North American?

    Seriously though I don’t know what NA is supposed to mean.

    I know the N word in reference to black people.

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      I meant for it to describe a fascist government that only want blonde hair and blue eyes.

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        Life pro tip: If a community would ban you for using the word Nazi (assuming you’re not being an asshole), make them ban you.

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          Exactly. Hopefully you don’t get banned. But lemmy is my new newspaper after getting banned from reddit for using the NA words.

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            I don’t think you understand Lemmy or moderation.

            If your instance bans you, it’s because you did something to breach their terms. Sign up for a new instance and read the terms. And then read the terms of any instance whose communities you subscribe to, and when in that community, follow THOSE terms AND your home instance’s terms.

            Even Reddit doesn’t ban people for the words they use. Subreddits sometimes do.

            What any community bans you for is how you behave. Context and actions over time matter.

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            Well that’s because redditors are a bunch of nazis.

            Context really matters, you’ll absolutely be timed out if you’re an asshat but mods tend to be pretty communicative here.

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        I would LOVE that community. I would ask questions like

        “If the silverware in Beauty and the Beast is alive, do they get pleasure from being stabbed into a delicious piece of meat, and then stuffed into a persons mouth, only to be licked by their tongue? Does the teapot feel light headed if you pour out too much tea?”

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          Those are actually quite astute considering the subject matter!

          (That teapot question is going to stay with me a while… 🤨🤔🤭 )

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      Well I can’t mention it one games or any MMORPG that i’ve seen talking about the Holocaust/

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              What if they change their mind though? What if they see the error of their ways? Can you guarantee that all people who think that way will never change their thinking in the future?

              I think jumping directly to violence and killing is probably not the greatest idea. Yes, their ideology is bad, but they are still a human. All humans can change their mind without needing to have violence involved. There are people who have left similar walks of life as well, former KKK and mafia, etc. That’s not to say that they should be accepted or encouraged to keep holding Nazi ideals, but maybe let’s not incite violence against them? Is that not the same thing that they did to gain power? How would a person using their same tactics be any different or better than them? Sure, its not the easiest thing to do, but I think its more humane to try to show love for people by educating them rather than just killing people or being violent.

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                I will feel no sympathy for every dead nazi just because “what if they change?”.

                No. You decided to be a facist, and facists get bullets. I don’t step on a train track, and expect people to feel sorry for me if I get hit by the train, because “What if I step off instead?”

                No. I was an idiot. I stood on the train tracks. Then I died. My fault. We need to bring back “fuck around, find out”.

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                  What you talk about is completely irrelevant to what I said. You are talking about consequences for actions, and I am talking about changing people’s thinking. These are two very different things.

                  If they’re dead, they already made their choice. You think of them however you want. I agree with you that actions should absolutely have consequences, but that is not relevant in this context. A person thinking or believing something that is wrong should not have every person trying to kill them or commit some act of violence upon them.

                  If they’re still alive, which is what I am talking about, there is no justifiable reason to kill a human unless they have committed a crime with the punishment of death. Thinking should not be a crime, even if that thinking is very wrong. I think a world where thinking something wrong can put you in the grave is a very dangerous future to try to advocate for. Especially when humans are the ones that decides what thinking is right or wrong, because the wrong thinking will always be whatever will remove power from a certain group.

                  In your example, you mention you dying on train tracks that you decided to walk onto. What I am talking about is the way that onlookers and bystanders react to you being on the train tracks. Which is the better person: the person that begs and pleads for you to get off the train tracks maybe even grabbing you or physically trying to pull you off the tracks, or the person that pushes you into the oncoming train? My whole point is that people should be the ones trying to help get you off the train tracks, not the ones pushing you into the train and removing the chance you might have had to get off of the tracks.

                  In the end its still your choice. But I would hope that you can agree that pushing you into the oncoming train would be a bad choice for someone else to choose.

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              Art thou on some sort of archaic English arc these days? I recall a SatansMaggotyCumFart that spoke in a more contemporary vernacular yesteryear.

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        You don’t. If people didn’t ever get banned here, this place would be overrun by nazis in no time.

        If you do feel the need to call someone a nazi, then maybe just don’t, though. Report them, if they’re violating the rules. If they don’t, then either ignore them or feel free to engage in a discussion on the part you take issue with, without assuming they’re a nazi. Vilifying people is actively bad for convincing them to change their ways, and it’s a part of the Reddit culture which unfortunately made its way over here, too.

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          On social media, don’t attack the person you disagree with. Argue the case for everyone else who’s reading the discussion, as if you were an attorney trying to convince the jury. Personal attacks are often counterproductive, and detract from the credibility of your argument.

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    Depends on context?

    Nazi isnt a word that is banned on its own typically.

    Accusing someone of being a Nazi? Probably should be banned for that, unless you have actual evidence of the person youre accusing endorsing the specific policies of Nazis. Throwing that word around just to describe anyone you disagree with or doesn’t agree with you is quite frankly incredibly disrespectful to the people who had to suffer at the hands of actual Nazis, whether they are still alive or not. It cheapens the word.

    Speaking in a historical context? Definitely shouldn’t be banned for that.

    At the end of the day, it depends on the moderators of the instance and community. There is no guarantee anything you say or do online will prevent you from being banned. Even if you follow the rules.