Just started Lemmying today. Have lots of questions. Someone mentioned mod logs, so I went down a rabbit hole reading mod logs. The only reason I left reddit was because many mods are dicks. But reading the logs, it seems mods ban people and censor like crazy here too. Isn’t Lemmy supposed to be more free and open? How is this different from Reddit? I honestly don’t understand.

  • LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org
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    4 months ago

    Well, unless they blocklist instances. It’s sad that operators would rather tear at the fabric of the fediverse than to allow users on their instances to get exposed to opinions that they don’t like.

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      4 months ago

      See, thats the balancing act. I feel like it’s smart to say “well sign up to the smallest instance you can find”, that way the owner won’t care.

      But I feel that runs the risk of that instance can disappear at anytime. Which I assume would make your account inaccessible.

      We need to make defederating on an instance level not an option. If I want to block a community, or a person, I can. Why block everyone else from seeing something I disagree with?

      Now I fully get why instances need to block an individual. If some guy came on here promoting nazism, sure. I get that. Ban him.

      But me, not doing anything wrong can’t communicate with any instances that Lemmy.World has deemed me not needing to see…

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        4 months ago

        Because some instances that aren’t managed well can just have tons and tons of spambots signing up constantly such that it’s not practical to ban individual accounts. Especially since most admin and mod teams are small on Lemmy. There are also literal nazi instances that exist just to go out and harass and threaten minorities or people they hate. While you could ban all the users it’s a lot easier to just block the whole instance.

        So while I agree with you that it’s overused, I don’t see how completely disallowing it can work. Not sure what a better solution would look like though.

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        This naively assumes there aren’t malicious or extremists instances hell bent on brigading others in the fediverse. Without defederation, they can keep spinning up accounts to bypass individual bans until mods are overwhelmed.

        Every instance retains their respective right to block who they deem a risk whether that’s an individual or instance. As an individual, you are more than welcome to create a separate account on another instances if you disagree with your current instance rules or bans, as is the nature of the fediverse.