• prenatal_confusion@feddit.org
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    2 months ago

    Also wrong. Rigged elections would imply there ever was a communist Russia. There never was. It was (maybe at its best, in part) socialist and most of the time after the zars a military state. That is true for all states that were left leaning btw. No communists to be found.

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        2 months ago

        Great argument. What do you base this on?

        It’s like china calling itself communist right now.

        Yes there was rhetoric in the USSR that suggested they were but it was an instrument to legitimate the horrible things that they did to their people.

        From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society

        A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access[1][2] to the articles of consumption and is classless, stateless, and moneyless,[3][4][5][6] implying the end of the exploitation of labour.[7][8]

        That was not the case. It was state owned, as the transition from whatever system was there before to socialism plans. Communism is supposed to be something different.

        I am not arguing that it would be good or better than anything we have today but am saying that we never saw communism in the modern world.

        Change my mind with arguments and not down votes.

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          2 months ago

          This is a semantic matter. No socialist state has ever claimed to have reached the stage of communism, including China. But some socialist states—including China—have been/are run by communist governments/parties, which claim to be working toward reaching that stage.