I think a little clarification is needed. No. I don’t actually think everyone there is insane. I don’t care about the bans so stop trying to use that. HB enthusiasts coming here and trying to call me out achieves nothing besides proving my point

Edit: Feel free to keep trying to brigade me. It’s not going to scare me to take this down

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    Thank god for hexbear and lemmygrad though. Imagine the effort needed to block them all individually if spread over all the other instances.

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      Before instance blocking was a thing I blocked individual trolls wheb I saw them and after about the fifth block I didn’t see a lot of hexbear, so it they have a few very loud individuals but instance blocking hexbear really made my browsing a lot more chill

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      Yeah, it’s actually helpful to have safe spaces for hateful assholes so they can be corralled away.

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        On the other hand, an isolated community can also become a nasty brewing pot, reinforcing harmful behaviors and even intensifying them over time.

        I don’t think calling them safe spaces for hateful assholes is accurate, but I understand frustrations with them.

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    I love that without fail every single person in this thread defending hexbears is from ml with the same pronoun tag format every single hexbear seems to have

    Almost like they’re hexbear alts or something

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      Before I get accused of being a hexbear alt, I only added them after I saw that they were in common use due to hexbear posters showing up in my /all. We did actually start mandating pronoun tags for people participating in /c/transgender -despite the fact that some of the admins are resistant at the instance level- because it seems to work well in the trans spaces on hexbear for fostering a respectful environment.

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        That’s cool, bud. And I’m doing my best to not criticize the individual person, but there are a few people that make souring the reputation of all on HB

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          Couldn’t that be said of any and all groups? A few bad posters has soured me on the lemm.ee instance, but would it be logical or fair or me to assume that a few bad experiences reflects an entire group?

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    I was bullied for off Lemmy.One by the hexbear mods who sent hexbear users my way to harass me…

    All for (while I’m still a raging communist) not being a pro authoritarian communist.

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    If you’ve heard of Chapo Trap House that’s them. If not, most of those kids/idiots/trolls are the type of terminally online fake leftists that give other leftist a bad image in general. They were so ridiculous Reddit got tired of their shit and banned them a couple years back.

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    Damn it’s nice to see the comments are surprisingly evenly split between hating on it and actually being reasonable. Quite a difference from when redditors first moved in here last year.

    I guess the more people talk about it, the more people actually visit it for themselves and form their own opinions.

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      Nah, it is just a lot of hexbear alt accounts like yourself on your disingenously labeled “reasonable” side.

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      Every single person I’ve seen defending it has been a lemmy.ml user which from my understanding is not too dissimilar from hexbears

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    idk, I’ve seen all the hype around hexbear users being obnoxious around Lemmy (including our own instance debating blocking the instance, followed by several of their members brigading the thread true to form)… but I’ve explored the communities on the instance itself and even subscribed to some of them like mutual aid, gaming etc, and those that I’m watching are actually just normal people doing normal things if more left than some other similar groups. In my experience it isn’t “all” hexbear users, because that would be a dumb generalization.

    There are some assholes on that instance to be sure. Show me one that this isn’t true of. I’m glad our instance didn’t block them because I now get to decide for myself. I block communities and/or users if they’re a problem for me. I think that’s a good way.

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        They’re getting there, but so far it’s only a few users that I’ve noticed.

        One guy seems to be following me around to attempt mockery.

        They’re very much getting to “everyone who isn’t farther left than me is a right-wing nazi” mentality.

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          They aren’t even really left. They are super authoritarian.

          I blocked them since they spew Russian and Chinese propaganda points and take revisionist stances on Tianman square and deny the Uyghur Genocide.

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            The term “authoritarian” is so fraught that under these circumstances it might as well just mean “opponent of the United States” or “organized at all”.

            The examples you have provided are quite absurd.

            Tiananmen Square (which you misspelled) is indeed poorly understood in The West, including the historical conensus that there was no massacre in the square itself. It is, in fact, historical revisionism to suggest otherwise. In addition, Tiananmen Square is just a place, a very popular one to visit that has been the location for all kinda of events. In China, the events are called the June 4 Incident / events. Calling it “Tiananmen Square” is sometimes a sign that a person is not familiar with the history as they are using the common but misleading term that is virtually only used to forward the previously-mentioned historical revisionism to a Western audience that is in no way interested in understanding.

            Re: Uyghurs, I would suggest that you read into this much more, as the topic is full of misinformation, think tanks with shady ties, fake universities, charlatans pretending to be experts, literal teenagers treated as satellite photography analysis experts, and really weird NGOs, including pro-Trump ones. One good topic to focus on is calling it a genocide at all and how that came to be the discourse. In particular, what The Newlines Institute is, why they were amplified by the US State Departmwnt, their rationale, and, of course, why none of that is taken seriously outside of a very specific political block. Following their members, funding, etc is actually a pretty interesting rabbit trail to follow. Bird’s eye view, the rhetorical treatment of Uyghurs as the subject of genocide was more or less invented, and this is is why you naturally don’t see math death, destruction, refugees, or forced migrations of the Uyghur population. This does not mean bad things haven’t happened there nor that policies were not hamfisted, but just compare how China treated a series of sectarian knife attacks (education, jobs, vocational training, investment, banning extremist Salafist practices) to how the West treated and treats Muslims (invading and killing millions).

            So, anyways, I hope that you can continue your education and engage with these realities in gold faith.

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              On behalf of my Uyghur friends who haven’t spoken to their parents in years, because they were imprisoned for their children emigrating: fuck you. A really deep, heartfelt fuck you.

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                Please, tell us more about your Uyghur friends and their imprisoned parents.

                What’s it like to completely make stuff up and post it online pseudonymously?

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    I’ve never seen a single post or comment from hexbear, I didn’t even block them maybe my instance maintainer did block them so I don’t know lol, what did they do to get so much hate?

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      They get hate because they challenge the viewpoints of liberals who have never peeped outside their western media echo chambers. They would literally just be considered normal leftists outside the west, but thats like garlic to a vampire for lemmredditors.

      If you ask people on .world or .ee, it’s because they have positive views on China and Russia, who are responsible for all ills in the world.

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    I blocked hex just days after finding out about lemmy and registering. Some super crazy shit going on there.

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      They just let the hogs shit on balls then they photograph them and crop them into little emoji, don’t ask me why I’m not an anthropologist

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    It’s common sense there that Israel must be destroyed and they use pronouns like “comerade/them”.

    And most important: They silence everyone who does not agree.

    They are sowjet fan boys and try to build such a hierarchical system online.

    Just block them…

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      It’s common sense there that Israel must be destroyed and they use pronouns like “comerade/them”.

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    Last I checked there was an instance rule preventing the posting of pictures of cheese without a trigger warning.

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    Heavily scratched liberal gets banned from hexbear for being a debate pervert and trying to start fights, immediately proceeds to call everyone there mentally ill

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      What the fuck is a debate pervert? Yall are weird af to be following this dude over here and commenting on his posts and having your alt accounts or other weirdo friends upvote lol looks pathetic.

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      I’m not banned from there and I agree with OP. Those people need serious help.

      Edit: I mean they think Donald Trump is a liberal FFS. Donald Fucking Trump.

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        I mean they think Donald Trump is a liberal FFS. Donald Fucking Trump

        I mean, yes. Donald Trump generally supports the free market, individualist ideology of Liberalism, and is extremely pro Capitalism.

        Liberalism doesn’t mean “left wing” or “center left.”

        Trump is also a far-right populist, but falls under the umbrella of liberalism.