• irkli@lemmy.world
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    I wonder how many complaining here actually read even this bland and uninformative article.

    At issue I believe (because it is not stated, but discussed elsewhere in better venues) is that UK wants to be able to see inside encrypted comms and files, under the guise of CSAM detection. Apple is right to oppose it.

    Arguments based on hypocrisy real or perceived in other venues (china) has nothing to do with this decision its just piss-taking. Give it a rest.

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      Other than their asinine charging cable/accessory situations I consistently find myself agreeing with Apple pretty much any time any government body or group is mad they won’t do something.

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        They’re generally on the wrong side of the battle for right to repair and removable batteries too.

        But yeah, privacy they almost always have the right of it.

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        how do you reckon?

        only time they have been on the consumer’s side was with regards to privacy, refusing to comply with the FBI and now this.

        everything else they are pretty anti-consumer, off the top of my head

        • first to remove jack 3.5 (even though I don’t really care about this, others do.)
        • sticking to shitty lightning cable so they can sell overpriced cables
        • the charger thing with the EU
        • worst of all entirely against right to repair
        • asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml
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          Honestly modern phones not having 3.5mm doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the loss of micro SD

          I’m never getting a phone without a micro SD port

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            Bluetooth provides another vector of attack for the convenience. There is already quite a list of known vulnerabilities. Yes, many of these get patched but as the open standard evolves, so do the hackers. You could turn it off entirely, plug in a cable & forget all that if all you wanted to do was use audio/video.

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      Remember how everyone kicked up a giant stink about apple adding “on device CSAM scanning when uploading photos to iCloud”?

      They did that precisely because it would allow them to search for CSAM without giving up any privacy. As I said back when all that rage was happening, if apple don’t get to implement it this way you can be damn sure that the government is going to force them to implement CSAM scanning in a much more privacy-destroying way, and well here we are.

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        CSAM without giving up any privacy.

        Hmmmm funny because security researchers said the opposite, I kinda believe them more?

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          Who said it was givening up privacy. The worst I heard is slippery slope of they donthis they might ad more to it later. And how was it privacy compromising?

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        Anything scanning messages or media on my device is an absolute NO if I don’t control it.

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        Like the politicians would have cared. This is just a convenient excuse. Either they would have found another one or they would have said “we can’t trust Apple to scan for this material. The police has to do these scans!”

        We were right to oppose it then and we are right to oppose it now.

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          We were right to oppose it then and we are right to oppose it now.

          You were right to oppose doing it in the most privacy conscious way? Or were you against CSAM scanning at all?

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            It was a government provided list of hashes check against. For me, I don’t like it because I don’t trust 3 letter agencies to not abuse the ability to search every iDevice in the world for arbitrary file hashes.

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              It was a database of hashes that were taken from the intersection of multiple country CSAM databases.

              Germany couldn’t just put a picture of a nazi in there and have every iPhone flag everyone that has a picture of a nazi on it unless multiple other countries also had that same picture in their CSAM db.

              It also only happened when you uploaded the photo to iCloud. Know what they do now instead? Just scan for CSAM on iCloud like google, Microsoft, imgur, Reddit, etc all do.

              The end result is the same in detecting CSAM, but the way apple proposed was more secure and valued your privacy more.