- In short: Transgender woman Roxanne Tickle is suing social media platform Giggle for Girls after she was excluded from the women-only app.
- She is alleging unlawful discrimination on the basis of gender identity while the app’s founder has denied she is a woman.
- What’s next? The hearing is expected to run for four days.
A transgender woman who was excluded from a women-only social media app should be awarded damages because the app’s founder has persistently denied she is a woman, a Sydney court has heard.
In February 2021, Roxanne Tickle downloaded the Giggle for Girls social networking app, which was marketed as a platform exclusively for women to share experiences and speak freely.
Users needed to provide a selfie, which was assessed by artificial intelligence software to determine if they were a woman or man.
Ms Tickle’s photograph was determined to be a woman and she used the app’s full features until September that year, when the account became restricted because the AI decision was manually overridden.
Trans woman = woman, I fail to see your point.
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They are saying that all women — cis and trans — are women. It doesn’t mean or imply that trans women and cis women have no differences.
I must be confused about what an equal sign means then.
Trans women = women
Cis women = women
Cis women ≠ trans women
transfone!
False, the ‘=’ is transitive, meaning:
A = B and B = C implies A = C
The symbol you meant to use is the implication arrow: =>
Trans women => women
Cis women => women
Black women => women
Lesbian women => women
This means: If the left statement is true, the right statement must also be true. If the left statement is false, you don’t know whether the right statement is true or false.
I would just use the subset symbol ⊆. I think it makes more sense here.
You’re right, I don’t have that on my keyboard though
Besides, a ∈ A ⊆ B => a ∈ B, so what I wrote is not THAT nonsensical
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Did you understand what I was saying?
Yes?
Then it’s true. This isn’t a math class in university this is a conversation on Lemmy. You understood the point so my message was conveyed.
I don’t mean to be a pedant but that math doesn’t make much sense.
They are trying to say that cis and trans women both fall under the larger group known as women, they just don’t understand math.
I know what they are trying to say, I just don’t think they realize that mathematically it doesn’t make sense.
Agreed.
Could you explain what part of it doesn’t make sense to you? (Or what part you disagree with) Maybe one of us can clarify better if we start there
Literally do not care I’m not in a math class I’m on Lemmy. I conveyed the point and you understood it so it did make sense. Learn how language and communication works.
You’re being intentionally dense. Different adjectives can apply to the same noun without implying those adjectives are the same thing. It’s extremely basic grammar.
“X is Y” in English translates mathematically to “X is a subset of Y”
Here’s an example written out in plain English. You can do the exercise of translating it to math terms to see how it makes sense.
Am I the same as you absolutely? No? Ok but we are both humans, right?
When assigning things to categories we make lists of properties. So yes there are differences but those aren’t the criteria of assignment. A 90 year old cis woman and a 19 year old cis woman are both still woman despite them having differences.
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I bet you would equally have a problem with the phrase “women are women” because there is no 1:1 equivalence between two women. Ask yourself why “natural” has to be added in the response when it wasn’t in the original statement?
Saying women=women would be an accurate statement.
Please define what a ‘natural woman’ is. Specifically. Is it chromosomes? Is it anatomy?
It is unfortunate that people are being attacked for asking questions. It is very toxic here.