• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I have been wondering since this war started, what’s preventing China from just taking ALL of Russia. Like, 2021? That’s Russia. 2025? That’s China now.

    Russia would never threaten China with nukes, because 1) China ALSO has nukes, and 2) China has been the only thing keeping Russia afloat recently.

    So what if something like 9,000,000 soldiers all collectively invaded Russia from one central entrypoint as far east as Chinas border is along Russias, thus splitting Russias military in a two way war.

    The United States wouldn’t get involved because that would mean they’re helping Russia. But also, who else WOULD get involved? Putin is lucky that China doesn’t have ME as it’s head of state. Because from my perspective, it’s free real estate that nobody wants to defend, being occupied by a tiger army, and it’s land is full of resources that if China were to monopolize, would grant them a grip around the balls of the rest of the world.

    But it would have to be a scorched earth kind of invasion. The kind that pisses off basically everyone, because it leaves every single Russian, military, or citizen, dead. They’d have to come in, take everything, and kill everything. Take the land. The only thing they have to make sure of, is that they DON’T fight Ukraine. They tell Ukraine “We won’t invade your space, but Russia is ours”. And Ukraine would probably take that deal.

    But it seems China is very VERY averse to war right now. Which tells me, they aren’t ready for a war.

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      2 months ago

      what’s preventing China from just taking ALL of Russia

      The same thing that’s made china not have an overt military conflict for the past half century: they’re not a militaristic, expansionist country. I know that’s inconceivable for bloodthirsty Americans, but really, give it a thought, which country has participated in more overt conflicts in the past half century.

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        2 months ago

        they’re not a militaristic, expansionist country.

        I’m guessing the Dalai Lama doesn’t agree with you on that one.

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              2 months ago

              Please tell me you have a reliable source on the number of Tibetans in Tibet that want independence from China.

              Let’s then compare that to Catalonians in Spain, or to Quebec nationals in Canada, or to indigenous colonies in the US

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                2 months ago
                1. I said “the world” and not “China.”

                2. None of those places were conquered within living memory, the thing you said China doesn’t do.

                (Believe it or not, arguing that they like being conquered and colonized doesn’t mean they weren’t conquered and colonized.)

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                  2 months ago

                  (Believe it or not, arguing that they like being conquered and colonized doesn’t mean they weren’t conquered and colonized.)

                  “The right of self-determination is only relevant when it’s bad for China :(”

                  Tibet was a literal feudal state with absolutist power, where Tibetans worked the land as serfs for their feudal lords as they were legally tied to it. The liberation army liberated the Tibetans from their feudal yoke in a non-colonial way (we can get into the details if you want to).

                  None of those places were conquered within living memory, the thing you said China doesn’t do.

                  Ok, hopefully we’ll stop hearing the imperialists cry about how much better Tibet was under feudalism in 20 years, when it’s no longer living memory.

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                    2 months ago

                    Again- this was about you claiming China is not expansionist.

                    You can claim the expansionism was justified, you can claim that the people wanted it, you can claim it’s unfair because of “the imperialists,” you can claim any of those things or other things.

                    What you cannot truthfully claim is that a country which literally expanded its borders by a massive amount in living memory by the same government that is currently in power is not expansionist.