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    So I could have a usable machine at work? Good. I am forced to upgrade from win7 to win11 in the lab, and current win11 crap did not appeal to me at all. And it has WSL, so at least it can actually be used for work.

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    Oh look, with the threat of a big enough fine, you can uninstall those things.

    Or at least hide the front ends for them.

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    Imagine living somewhere where those in charge have even there smallest bit of spine.

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    Linux gives all global users more control: Uninstall Windows, say goodbye to Microsoft

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      I would love to, but we stiill use Windows specific software (and sometimes even Dos specific software!) but we already do that through a VM. The other issue is the extensions we have for Microsoft Office just won’t work on the Linux alternatives and even then Libreoffice isn’t good enough for half the staff in my accounting firm because it lacks certain features for now.

      Most companies who work in browser based software + email can easily switch to Linux and they would barely notice it.

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        I would love to, but we stiill use Windows specific software

        If I had 1 cent every time I read that… and I pulled those cents together… and then paid software developers to build that missing software for other OSes like Linux… then we’d gradually see less of those comments.

        It’s as if the isolation was the business model, proprietary software insuring that alternatives do not exist because users do not bother to get together and unstuck themselves from glowingly dangerous (security wise but probably even financially dependencies.

        Hopefully initiatives like NLNet are precisely trying to alleviate such challenges. Until them compatibility layers like Proton are showing the way with arguably some of the most complex and demanding in terms of performance software, namely games.

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          If I had 1 cent every time I read that… and I pulled those cents together… and then paid software developers to build that missing software for other OSes like Linux… then we’d gradually see less of those comments.

          There is a version of the software that works in the browser, but it’s not really that great. That’s what you get when you legally need to use specific software (even the Dutch tax office still use the same old version we use). There are other alternatives, but it’s a massive investment of time to test and switch to that. Something we are forced to do in the near future, but it’s gonna take a lot of time inclusing a lot of time of people with hourly rates of over the 200 EUR excluding VAT. I estimate it will cost us maybe 50% of our yearly revenue to fully switch an organisation to Linux and we will loose a lot of people working here where there are a lot of issues with finding new people for accounting firms.

          I have been trying to install Microsoft Office in Linux mint on my personal PC cause I have more issues with LibreOffice when using MSOffice files (and the people receiving the files will be using MSOffice as well) than I have with games. I tried it using Bottles (Wine) with multiple different installers, but no luck so far.

          Not sure what NLNet is going to do about software lol, I believe you mean something different. NLNet is an instance that is there for people living with lymphedema and/or lipedema and their loved ones.

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            Not sure what NLNet is going to do about software lol, I believe you mean something different.

            That NLNet https://nlnet.nl/ funding FLOSS project.

            There are also BlueHats in France showing how administration is using AND consequently funding FLOSS https://code.gouv.fr/en/bluehats/ by paying for sysadmin, feature dev, maintenance, etc.

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      I’d love to at work, but I’m using some win-only software with a f-ed up licence manager that I cannot stuff into a VM.

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      Now switch package managers and run all your drives on different obscure file systems! Make every login cycle through plasma gnome an unhinged custom DE and raw terminal where a camera with sign language recognition is the only valid input!

      Create a script to revert to systemd every third startup!

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    For those curious, if you can get a European Windows product key, you can install the “N” version of Windows. Be warned, it only works with certain product keys

    The standard Windows installer should give the option of “Windows 10” or “Windows 10 N” (or similar). The N version is basically bloatware free out of the box…

    The regular version has a bunch of promos pre-installed, like candy crush, and other things that most people couldn’t give a shit about…

    Recently I’ve been playing a “fun” game with my work laptop where I’ll remove copilot, and a few days later it will appear again. Weeee. In that case, it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a policy in place to enable copilot on my works systems… I’m sure someone who works here, probably higher up the food chain than me, wants it enabled, and the ham fisted policy maker can’t create a policy just for those who want it, so everyone gets it because the bosses son Shane decided that he wants to see how much of his work can get done by AI so he can do even less while on the clock.

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      Companies absolutely HATE copilot. I remember they didn’t even like Siri enabled on the Mac’s where I used to work. No way in hell copilot is getting a pass.

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        Don’t underestimate management desire to be absolutely indistinguishable from their competition.

        They read the Harvard Business Review, learn new terms they don’t understanding, make a PowerPoint out of it and voila, they are “innovative” like everyone else.

        If HBR put “AI” on its cover you can be damn sure all those innovators are going to put AI wherever they can.

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        I work for a fairly large company, and we’re hearing about “AI” constantly. CoPilot is available and its use encouraged. Also, in the cybersecurity space, AI is fucking everywhere. Vendors won’t shut up about their “AI Enabled” products. And the new hotness is “Agentic AI”, which is basically automation, but we’re going to let AI hallucinations fire off the automated process which could bring production systems down.
        Good times are surely coming. /s

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      N editions should exclude just certain media features. I remember it trying in Win 7 days and never touched it again, never saw a point. Some additional info. Important bit is to not use Home edition, use Pro, Education or Enterprise instead.

      As for Copilot, is there anything under these registry keys?

      • HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot
      • HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot
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    Europeans have the Freedom to Uninstall SPYWARE? LoL COMMIES here in America we have TRUE FREEDOM of being FORCE FED SPYWARE with NO Other options!

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      the other option is a faster, more privacy focused, free, open source operating system.

      I made the switch a little over a year ago, I know not everybody can/wants to - but major distros are honestly polished enough these days that I haven’t looked back, I should have switched to Linux years ago.

      Not everyone will agree, but I think Ubuntu + installing apps through Flatpak is a winning option.

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    To get pedantic for a second. The title of this post is “Microsoft gives…” as if this was an altruistic act that Microsoft decided to do for some people, when the article states they did it to comply with a law.

    A much better title would have been “EU Forces Microsoft to Give Users More Control:” It returns the credit to the people who deserve the credit and clarifies that it wasn’t something Microsoft did willingly.

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    In other words: Users of proprietary OS like Windows have so little control over their own devices that it’s newsworthy when the vendor allows you to uninstall 2-3 bundled things out of many more. But only in some countries! It’s pathetic.

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          Windows 10 long term servicing channel. It’s intended for things like electronic signs but works great if you just want un bloated windows. It comes with most of the random bullshit not installed and has a longer period of security updates.

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          In addition to what Hangon said, some copies of LTSC 10 still have support until 2027 unlike other Windows 10 versions.

          If you wanted to try it out on a spare device without buying then ye’d be digging yerself a massgrave wink.

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      I just wish they didn’t also constantly try to force backdoors into everything…

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      European governments and the EU definitely don’t care about us, their citizens, but most do see the threat coming from USA these days, thankfully