• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    Don’t waste tax money on this. If some rich idiots want to unalive themselves in a can to see some garbage at the bottom of the ocean - let them.

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      We’ve already wasted money on them.

      Who do you think paid the coast guards and navies of the multiple nationals that conducted the deep sea search for Titan?

      Hint: Tax payers.

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        I don’t know about the others, but Coast Guard gets paid regardless. These events justify their budget. It wasn’t an “extra cost” to the taxpayers.

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        I was using it satirically and I honestly think that’s where this word is going. I find it fascinating though - it’s absolutely meaningless but it also sounds safe and incredibly artificial. It’s full of these paradoxical features that make this word really fun. I’d invest meme points into it tbh.

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        It’s too late man it’s now apart of the modern language. Insert Abe Simpson “I used to be hip…” meme.

    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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      I’ll be honest, I don’t think that’s a sensible approach. Yes, it’s billionaires offing themselves, sure. But regulations are quite important, in particular in sensible and critical areas like this.

      If they also protect some billionaires that’s an unfortunate side effect, but overall these regulations would be very good to have. The rise of venture capitalist attitude outside of IT is only going to get worse, so the sooner we can establish rules against that the better.

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        Could you expand on why? Surely there must be more important areas to spend resource to regulate than protecting some rich people hobbie that only few people per year partake in. It would cost millions of dollars to regulate something like this effectively. The only argument I can think off is that it could cost less to regulate than to “save and rescue” these idiots but save and rescue is not a pro bono service for the most part either. They or their insurance will have to cover the costs of this.

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            dunno man the whole thing is a bit absurd. At the same time literally over 400 people drowned trying to escape poverty. It’s really hard to care for this particular human value when there’s this massive injustice. Reality is we don’t have infinite resources and attention - we should direct it more efficiently than this.

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      I was this close to agreeing with you and then I remembered there was a kid on that sub, and now I’m thinking this was a really shitty thing to say.

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        The thing is that it’s not a binary on/off issue it’s resource distribution issue. Why should we collectively spend absurd amount of resources to protect this extremely small entertainment niche when there are literally people dying from preventable issues. I’m not an utalitarian but it’s really hard not to agree with their philosophy when you see events like this: rich people die in some absurd hobby and we spend more protecting them than hundreds of poor people literally drowning at the same time trying to escape unlivable poverty conditions. Like, I’m sorry man, but maybe you should redirect your anger there.

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    Didn’t they ignore a bunch of regulatory bodies by claiming the passengers were experts and not tourists? I think throwing more laws at it won;t do much, unless they close similar loopholes.

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      Mission Specialists.

      They were given trivial tasks to perform to justify the title. It was in bad faith and should have rung alarm bells. But I anticipate for the luxury thrill-seeker, they may be accustomed to fancy titles for their trips, and didn’t even really think about it.

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        The CEO bragged about building the submarine out of used parts and said that regulations were boring. He sealed his fate long before it happened.

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    No need for regulations, just set a price floor please. Only billionaires allowed.

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    I mean ok

    But also has an air of “won’t someone please think of the billionaires”

    Like, if some dipshit builds rockets and is offering trips to space for a million dollars and you tried to go to space through this clown and idk, not NASA… that’s kinda on you.

    But yeah, sure. Preventable deaths, etc.

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      There for sure should be something to regulate the commercial aspect of it, I don’t give a goddamn if some billionaires want to build their own sub, go exploring and die themselves.

      But you shouldn’t be able to charge someone or pay someone else to go with/for you unless certain minimum safety standards are met. And you know that’s what these rich asshole will do if given the opportunity

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    To be clear, it wasn’t a “tourist sub”… so maybe the first regulation should be defining exactly what that is,

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      The CEO was very careful to skirt applicable regulatory laws. He even called his passengers “crew members”. In the aviation world, I have some experience harmonizing multiple regulatory authorities. Because of “international waters”, there will need to be some agreement and harmonizing of regulations. There’s already SOLAS so, I think it can be done.

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    In the aviation world, an experimental aircraft may not be used for “compensation or hire”. The only exception is that a kitplane manufacturer is allowed to give demo flights.

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            Those are the two I’m most familiar with in my profession, at least as far as civilian authorities are concerned. Can’t really say “no” and, I’m pretty sure neither can you. On the other hand, feel free to prove me wrong with a counter example. :)

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        ROFL. Love James Cameron much? Stop idolizing celebrities ffs. I think you’re the one that needs to touch grass instead of caring about what some boomer thinks.

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    Only the gooberment can protect us from rich people getting killed private subs. Plz take more of my tax dollars.