• phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    So does that mean that NATO can also start deploying troops there? I mean, so far we’ve kept out to not escalate this, but if actual foreign troops will set foot on that front line, you can only wait so long for the other side to do the same…

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      No, because Ukraine is not a NATO member because they cannot join while already at war. If the USA got involved directly then the international community in the UN and even NATO itself would have mixed responses, perhaps even leading to NATO withdrawals and economic sanctions.

      However, the USA have started allowing private mercenary companies to participate directly in the conflict, and they’ve had indirect support specialists from the US Military in the region for a long time.

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    4 months ago

    So it’s OK for Ukraine to invite friends along to help too?

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      I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the US announced it would lift the ban on American contractors going to Ukraine at the same time as this. Russia reaps what it sows. Ukraine gets highly payed and skilled contractors, in return, Russia gets malnourished and untrained Korean conscripts.

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        I dont think it’s quite the same thing though. US contractors won’t be fighting, I think they’ll just be maintaining and repairing equipment.

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            Yes, it’s actually huge. Especially for maintaining a weapon as complicated as an Abrams tank. If it can be repaired close to the front lines then that has the potential to cut days off the turnaround time compared to towing it over to Poland.

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              I will never understand why the American military think it’s a good idea to send them tanks that are so complicated. Especially when they’re going up against cold war era relics.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Not to worry! Li’l Kim’s Bestest Buddy and Honorary Number One Chief Saluter will be ready to help NK help Russia destroy Ukraine and NATO.

    All you MAGA service “losers” and “suckers” got quite the cognitive dissonance jam rockin’ huh.

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      Biden broke all ties with North Korea after Trump. Reverting to the old demand to denuclearize before for any negotiations and imposing more sanctions.

      As we have learned from Ukraine. no sane country should ever give up their nukes because they become a prime target for invasion. If Ukraine still had nukes Russia would never have invaded.

      Biden has also imposed sanctions on NK which were undone by Trump

      Now I’m not a an NK fan but I’m not sure why people think pushing NK away would make them more friendly. Unlike the past where American sanctions spelled doom and America could bend any country to their will, China and Russia are now picking up the countries America pushes away.

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        China and Russia are now picking up the countries America pushes away.

        Pretty sure North Korea has been allied with China and Russia for way longer than the US has been “pushing them away”.

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          Well yes because America had been pushing North Korea away.

          Trump tried to lay contact with NK. He might not have had pure motives for it. He usually doesn’t. But the action itself is not the problem.

          Biden hitting NK with the “new number who dis” right after becoming president certainly doesn’t make them trust us more. And thus they have been pushed further into the arms of Russia.

          The classic American imperialists refuse to accept that by sanctioning a country into oblivion they will now just join China and Russia’s side. They have alternative options.

          Most Americans don’t even know why North Korea is so hostile. We bombed them into oblivion during the Korean war.

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    If US and NATO are supporting Ukraine I didn’t see what’s the problem if China and North Korea support Russia…

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      It’s almost like Ukraine is better than NK, from a moral and logical perspective. Ukraine isn’t starving their own people, nor are they “disappearing” the local Muslim population á-la China. They’re simply defending themselves.

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        Remind me how many Neo-Nazi battalions are in the DPRK? Or where in the DPRK constitution there is a provision to protect their gene pool?

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        According to you logic US it’s supporting Israel so I believe your “moral” and “logic” is pretty twisted…

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          The US isn’t sending troops into Gaza. This story is about NK sending troops into Ukraine. It’s not hard to see the clear difference.

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            Nice slippery slope…

            Edit: Israel didn’t even need soldiers, Palestinians didn’t even have weapons to defend themselves and are starving to death, so money and weapons will do the work to continue with the genocide.